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  • #21
    Originally posted by HiLo Rudyo! View Post
    I agree with a lot of what ya say Bringer, at least like 60% of the time but TX ain't going purple/blue. Austin, Houston and Dallas have a lot of dems in them but they're surrounded literally by a sea of red.
    Since it's you, I'll reply one more time to this thread and clarify.

    Yes, I think losing Texas is a legitimate threat to Republicans. Probably in 8 years time if demographics continue shifting the way they are but, if not, definitely in my lifetime.

    However, that's not even the major point of my original post. My major point is the electoral threat Trump poses to the party with his low numbers with minorities - Which is an undisputed fact at this point. You can take Texas out of the equation if you get too hung up on it and look at the polling numbers in other Republican stronghold states that are absolutely vital to their winning a general election like Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, or Utah and see the same trend : The dislike for Trump among minorities in those states is so strong that they're all considered to be "in play" for Clinton this year.

    And it's not like Clinton is some remarkably beloved figure, either. We all know her public approval ratings are bunk too. If it were a more beloved figure that the public saw as an honest personality the numbers would likely be even worse for Trump.

    That's the issue and the reason why so many Republicans aren't endorsing Trump. Because the growing number of minorities in Republican states are going to remember them all rallying behind him and his hurtful rhetoric that targeted them in future elections.

    Guys like the Bushes, Romney, Graham, Cruz, Lee, and all the others I've mentioned are literally falling on their sword right now to try and prevent that and keep the party competitive on a national level regardless of November's outcome.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by ßringer View Post
      It's good for people like you on the further right side of the spectrum. It's not good for the moderates within the party. You can't win a general election with appealing to moderates. That goes for both parties : Democrats make up about 31% of the general population and Republicans make up 29% of it - The other 40% are independents who are overwhelmingly moderate.

      I'm totally fine with your party not trying to appeal to any of them, though. So you guys just keep on doing what you're doing, please. You're doing a bang up job.
      so what you're saying here is that establishment republicans like jeb bush or ted cruz have a better chance of appealing to moderates than an outsider like trump because he only appeals to alt-right nazis? are you high?

      http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...te-republicans
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ical-moderate/
      http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a...s_winning.html

      They actually do. As evidenced by the fact that they're not endorsing the candidate that they feel is doing harm to their party. They've literally decided to prioritize the future of their party over a petty win in November.
      so naive.

      Debunked.

      Latinos...

      http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...mp-unfavorably

      http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/p...st-day-n612666

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-t...ows-1468771201

      Blacks...

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-black-vote/

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...-in-oh-pa.html

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...on-poll-finds/

      That's not even counting women who make up 51% of the electorate, whom Trump has also alienated. But keep feeding your own confirmation bias - It's going to make bumping all of your posts in November that much more delicious.
      debunked in the sense that he is doing better than mccain or romney, the two morons who are supposedly #nevertrump because he said mean things about minorities.

      Once again, you show to the entire lounge that you cannot differentiate between a general election turnout of 120+ million and a primary turnout of roughly 30 million (source : http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ote_count.html) and a general election turnout of 120+ million.

      Trump got a total of 13 million votes (2.5 million less than Clinton) thus far. He's going to need to multiply that number by at least 5 to win the general election

      It's not happening and no amount of denial on your end is going to change that.
      trump won the republican primaries by a blowout therefore he is their strongest candidate. why can't you understand such a simple concept?

      Yeah, that's it : I romanticized the reasoning behind the #NeverTrump movement within the Republican party. It couldn't at all be that all of these people have given interviews on news programs for the last 6 months publicly stating their reasoning.

      How many times did you get dropped on your head as a child?
      so naive.

      Doesn't make anything he says any less true, and that's what you really have a problem with, isn't it?
      confirmation bias.

      Here, take another L.
      no bringer, you're not cool.
      Last edited by John Barron; 07-21-2016, 01:22 PM.

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      • #23
        I'm not going to bother being dragged back in to a tit-for-tat argument with a guy who, thus far, has demonstrated a vast lack of knowledge and understanding of the American political system.

        One thing I will point out is that McCain endorsed Trump back in May, you dip****. He's not a #NeverTrump person. To steal a phrase from your side of the autism spectrum, he's the ultimate "cuck" because he willingly endorsed a guy who implied he was a loser for being captured during the Vietnam war to try and score political points with Trumpets and keep his Arizona Senate seat because he's in a really tough race there against Ann Kirkpatrick this year.

        You not knowing that says all I really need to know about who I'm talking to here and underscores why I cannot take you seriously.

        http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/0...shes-on-trump/

        Have fun twisting reality to suit your narrative until November. Then again, you're such a delusional little moron that I bet you'll scream the results were rigged as soon as the results are announced.

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