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Old 05-14-2019, 07:57 PM #161
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I don't know how to send links. But if you search for it, you'll find it in no time.

Where was the contract from Finkle anyway? But you blame Hearn and AJ? Yeah, you're contradicting yourself all over the place.
https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-h...ght-uk--128489

"Even with $50 million on the table, Joshua is willing to make less money in order to face Wilder in the UK."

That's probably why. Joshua's motivation apparently rests on guys like you who deserve to see the fight live, at home. Money doesn't matter according to himself and his promoter. On the other hand, Ortiz's trainer says a contract was requested, and then communication ceased and Joshua magically had an opponent lined up (not unlike that date and location thing with Wilder). But he's lying, because Hearn is truthful. And I'm contradicting myself, because those 2 scenarios are clearly the same. And you don't know how to send links.

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Old 05-14-2019, 08:05 PM #162
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"Even with $50 million on the table, Joshua is willing to make less money in order to face Wilder in the UK."

That's probably why. Joshua's motivation apparently rests on guys like you who deserve to see the fight live, at home. Money doesn't matter according to himself and his promoter. On the other hand, Ortiz's trainer says a contract was requested (not unlike that date and location thing with Wilder), and then communication ceased and Joshua magically had an opponent lined up. But he's lying, because Hearn is truthful. And I'm contradicting myself, because those 2 scenarios are clearly the same. And you don't know how to send links.

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AJ and Hearn did say that eventually. But that still doesn't dispute the offer being bogus and the money coming from BT Sport. So even if they accepted the fight in the US, the fight wouldn't have been able to go through anyway. Wilder and Finkle have never wanted this fight. All they wanted was to convince enough freaks that they did.

Wilder is the one who says money doesn't matter. Then he contradicts himself by saying he won't fight unless he gets 50/50 even though he's not even close to being worth that.

Ortiz's team asked for a contract when it was too late in the day. Do you think Hearn is going to waste more time hoping for Ortiz even though they turned the offer down when he needs to move fast and get an opponent quickly? Maybe Ortiz should get some non Americans working for him. Because when they're involved, this is the kind of shlt they pull all the time. It's always the same with these greedy cowards.
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Old 05-14-2019, 09:16 PM #163
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AJ and Hearn did say that eventually. But that still doesn't dispute the offer being bogus and the money coming from BT Sport. So even if they accepted the fight in the US, the fight wouldn't have been able to go through anyway. Wilder and Finkle have never wanted this fight. All they wanted was to convince enough freaks that they did.

Wilder is the one who says money doesn't matter. Then he contradicts himself by saying he won't fight unless he gets 50/50 even though he's not even close to being worth that.

Ortiz's team asked for a contract when it was too late in the day. Do you think Hearn is going to waste more time hoping for Ortiz even though they turned the offer down when he needs to move fast and get an opponent quickly? Maybe Ortiz should get some non Americans working for him. Because when they're involved, this is the kind of shlt they pull all the time. It's always the same with these greedy cowards.
Could I get just ONE source for anything that you claim?

"While Joshua was initially skeptical of the high offer, Hearn confirmed that it's legitimate and the money is there."

If the money for an American broadcast on Showtime was coming from BT Sport (and not Showtime), Hearn could just say that. For some reason, only people in internet forums say this, and they all for some reason can NEVER produce evidence.

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Old 05-14-2019, 11:15 PM #164
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So you can't give me these lies either? Thought so. You creepy nutter.

When was Hearn proved to be lying about it being next? Where is this evidence you sick f3ck? Oh you don't have it do you? Just like always. Keep up with your smears and lies you freak.


by refusing to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua next

and by promising that Joshua would sign the contract

neither of those things happened

both Wilder advisers said that Hearn was disingenuous

by losing his pen..... Fast Eddie proved that Team Wilder were correct

Fast Eddie is protecting Joshua..... or should I say, Joshua is allowing/instructing Fast Eddie to steer him away from Wilder..... until they have milked their silly fans dry

you got treated like a sucker by Golovkin for the last 10 years you muppet..... now you are getting treated like a sucker by AJ
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Could I get just ONE source for anything that you claim?

"While Joshua was initially skeptical of the high offer, Hearn confirmed that it's legitimate and the money is there."

If the money for an American broadcast on Showtime was coming from BT Sport (and not Showtime), Hearn could just say that. For some reason, only people in internet forums say this, and they all for some reason can NEVER produce evidence.



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Old 05-14-2019, 11:18 PM #166
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Yet in the post before this, you called AJ a coward but not Ortiz. How is AJ a coward when he's gone above and beyond to get Ortiz but has been refused by that coward?

Do you even know what you're writing?
I'd say it's pretty clear, I called them all out. Ortiz being a coward is implied in him not being able to get his story straight 3 different versions in as many weeks, utter silence when it mattered most.

All the top heavyweights have been playing the avoidance game these past couple of years and it's just boring as hell to listen to their BS excuses.

With regards to AJ I like the kid, but there's no doubt he's been playing the silly games too, not in this case with Ortiz, but I believe they could have done more to land the fight with Wilder if they wanted, and the same goes for Wilder he talks big and then lines up the next bin man or hasbeen. They're all guilty.
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:27 PM #167
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ah the old where is the contract excuse cept if you dont agree to the fight there is usually no contract sent. you failed on step 1
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:44 PM #168
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Ortiz's coach Caicedo had nothing to do with the negotiations, a couple days ago he admitted that Luis Ortiz promoter, Dade Promotions handled the negotiations and messed up and are the ones at fault as why the fight didnt happen.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ortiz-tr...-talks--138385

“An opportunity like this to make whatever Eddie is offering - $7-8 million – you grab it,” Caicedo notes. I think it was a rookie mistake on their (Dade Promotions) part to not accept the fight. Luis is still pissed off. He found out when everyone else found out."

Now this pi[ece of shit is saying the opposite and is trying to manipulate the public, and some ******s here actually believe him (and a bunch of Wilder fangirls/AJ haters ride with the lies), like always, the dumbsters of this forum show their true face.
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Old 05-15-2019, 03:08 AM #169
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at first it was about no time to prepare for the fight,
thenafter it was low ball story, after that been debunked,
it was promoter's greediness ,
and now no contract was sent.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:22 AM #170
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Funny that you don't apply the same logic about Joshua not accepting the $50M offer. Can't keep up with your goal post moving, can you?
Strange that, I dont remember there being a 24 hour accept clause, Nor do I remember Hearn telling team Ortiz that they refused to talk about it...double standards indeed.
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