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  • #71
    Just because one may have a boat load of money, it doesn't mean one is eager to part with it for nothing. It's called return on investment. The only way that Wilder generates a huge return on investment, is if he faces and defeats the best in his division, thereby raising interest in seeing him fight. Nobody's interested in paying $10s of thousands for front row seats, nor are a million plus people willing to pay $100 PPV to see Wilder fight Breazeale. Hence, the current $2 million purses Wilder gets paid.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
      Lmmfao lol...


      i've answered this severla times. you guys don't have a clue about finances in boxing in the states, and that is fine. just gotta be quiet and learn something.

      wilder fights primarily on showtime and they have a finite budget. they won't pay more than 2-3 million dollars a fight, it cuts into the rest of the year's boxing. remember alexander - bradley? awful fight that ended in a headbutt? got an HBO exec fired and reduced the budget on hbo for the rest of the year and beyond. american fighters fight to premium cable and million dollar paydays, but if they want to get into the next tax bracket they go to PPV. and believe me, americans want to see big, strong, athletic dudes with spooky power like joshua and wilder, and will pay for it on PPV.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        dude this is not eh kiddie pool, this is CBS and showtime with a strong relationship with al haymon. those two working together are aruably the strongest partnership in boxing right now along with eddie and sky, and they certanly have more money and serve a larger market. ask eddie, he's said it before, the end game in boxing for this match or any other is on american ppv and in las vegas. wilder has more upside, and more powerful / wealthier backers! haymon had 400+ million in capital to start, and though some is gone, he's certainly got plenty of his endowment left!

        there is no shopping around! CBS cuts 50 million dollar checks several times a quarter! they gave floyd a quarter of a billion dollar deal and dealt with him directly! they're basically a promoter! and they promote boxing matches that have been several times this size!


        while it's obviously not an airtight contract that's been hashed out by both parties, this is an offer designed to get the ball rolling on negotiations to hold the fight in las vegas and on american PPV. eddie can take the fight, it can bomb, and joshua's side can still make 50 million. and if it does well they've got a split.

        there's nothing wrong with this offer as a starting point. brits are starting to move toward the idea that a "contract" is the same as an offer, and it is not!
        Joshua has a deal with Showtime don't you think they'd contact Hearn and say they're putting up the guarantee if they were? FFS think for once.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Tyrone Biggums View Post
          IF they have that kinda money lying around, why has Wilder only been getting like 2 million paypackets?

          No hate, no bs, just serious responses please.
          It’s because AJ-Wilder is a fight that can generate much more revenue than any of Wilder’s previous fights, it’s common sense really.
          None of us are qualified enough to make a valid projection of how much revenue this fight will generate but obviously Wilder’s team feel this fight will make enough to make paying AJ $50m a worthwhile investment.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
            What's that got to do with this?

            Was GBP an unbelievable and unrealistic offer like Wilders?


            dude what is unrealistic about wilder being bankrolled by the most powerful man in boxing, al haymon, who has CBS in his pocket?


            CBS dealt directly with floyd and paid him a quarter of a billion for a five fight deal. this offer is backed by the most powerful people in boxing with the deepest pockets! now that HBO is on the slide showtime and CBS are the biggest TV network players in this sport! that's who is backing this offer!

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            • #76
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
              It’s because AJ-Wilder is a fight that can generate much more revenue than any of Wilder’s previous fights, it’s common sense really.
              None of us are qualified enough to make a valid projection of how much revenue this fight will generate but obviously Wilder’s team feel this fight will make enough to make paying AJ $50m a worthwhile investment.


              this fight easily sells a million ppv. alvarez and golovkin sold well over a million and they don't even speak english and one is from a country nobody has heard of.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                Joshua has a deal with Showtime don't you think they'd contact Hearn and say they're putting up the guarantee if they were? FFS think for once.

                if somebody is not thinking and just picking his guy in this it is you!

                showitme has nothing to do with this? the network broadcasting the ppv has nothing to do with it and is not providing funding, the way they do with every wilder fight which they buy?

                is that whaty you want ?

                one of us wants this fight. who is it?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                  As Hearn mentioned Wilder might not have the funds, he wants an agreement and then try and get the guarantee by shopping around. This is why Hearn wants proof. He doesn't want to be wasting time on a deal that doesn't exist.
                  Deal that doesn't exist? he would end up getting the money either way if there's a contract. If they don't pay, they can demand. Just like with any contract.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by New England View Post
                    if somebody is not thinking and just picking his guy in this it is you!

                    showitme has nothing to do with this? the network broadcasting the ppv has nothing to do with it and is not providing funding, the way they do with every wilder fight which they buy?

                    is that whaty you want ?

                    one of us wants this fight. who is it?
                    Joshua has said categorically he wants the fight in the UK.Therefore Sky will take priority, as they are Joshua's Go to Network.Showtime's contract is up with Joshua and they have a handshake agreement with Wilder.If Showtime/CBS put the money up or helped this deal their would've been rumours or sources coming out that they intervened

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      This is common sense. So either you don’t have any, or you aren’t really looking for serious answers because any reasonably intelligent person would kmow the answer to this question.
                      Yep. The answer to this question doesn't require anything other than common sense.

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