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Old 03-27-2020, 02:30 PM #1
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Default When I watched Kownacki get stopped by Helenius I wasn't surprised

I didn't think Helenius would do it but I knew Kownacki wasn't quite the Wilder or Joshua destroyer some made him out to be. He didn't do too good against Arreola or Martin. Kiladze sent him to the hospital.

Not a shock by any means.....
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:20 PM #2
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Not a suprise to me either he has always been fan friendly but that's a polite way of saying he gets hit too much
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:22 PM #3
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He's a come forward fighter who doesn't move his head. Exciting to watch, but was a matter of time.
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:31 PM #4
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Ppl actually made him out to be Wilder Joshua level?
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:39 PM #5
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I think the Ruiz win over AJ ended up with some of us overvaluing everyone below AJ Wilder and Fury...that Ruiz win was a combination of luck/poor performance from AJ/AJ having poor recovery powers etc.

I'm interested in seeing Ruiz in some more fights to see what his real level is.
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:43 PM #6
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I didn't think Helenius would do it but I knew Kownacki wasn't quite the Wilder or Joshua destroyer some made him out to be. He didn't do too good against Arreola or Martin. Kiladze sent him to the hospital.

Not a shock by any means.....
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Not a suprise to me either he has always been fan friendly but that's a polite way of saying he gets hit too much
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He's a come forward fighter who doesn't move his head. Exciting to watch, but was a matter of time.
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Ppl actually made him out to be Wilder Joshua level?

Robert Helenius is an atg

You casuals donít know it yet

Lmao
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:48 PM #7
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Ppl actually made him out to be Wilder Joshua level?
Yes, there were threads saying he could beat either Joshua or Wilder lol
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:51 PM #8
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Not a suprise to me either he has always been fan friendly but that's a polite way of saying he gets hit too much
Wouldn't mind seeing him against Breazeale
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:59 PM #9
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I think the Ruiz win over AJ ended up with some of us overvaluing everyone below AJ Wilder and Fury...that Ruiz win was a combination of luck/poor performance from AJ/AJ having poor recovery powers etc.

I'm interested in seeing Ruiz in some more fights to see what his real level is.
I think ruiz will stay the same level he has always been fringe top 10 and wont suite do enuff in alot of his bigger fights . Winning some, losing some . He has the potential to be a real threat if he stays in the gym but he couldnt do that when he was hungry and needed money what's his drive going to be like now hes a rich man . I like andy and will route for him but I dont have high Hope's for him ever becoming champ again or making any real noise
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I was surprised at first because:
a) I thought Kownacki's chin was superb, top 3 in HW now -- I was wrong;
b) I thought Helenius is too weak physically to harm Kownacki -- I was wrong;
c) I thought Kownacki wil KO Helenius quickier than Washington -- I was wrong.
Later on, after reading many great and OBJECTIVE comments from people who know boxing more than I do, I admit I shouldn't have been so much surprised.

Now, I am curious what Kownacki is going to do. He lost a lot but he gave Polish people HOPE, the first hope from prime Golota times. Noone in Poland will curse him for retiring as we know his style isn't the safest one, to say delicately. I know he is a fan of Lennox Lewis and most probably will try to have the rematch and win it convincingly like Lewis did twice. I cannot blame him as he has a great brave heart, but if he lose again he should definitely retire.
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