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Old 03-12-2020, 02:29 PM #11
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he was pretty good but was never tested to the extent that we could call him an atg. good fighter and worthy of respect
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Old 03-12-2020, 02:29 PM #12
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Calzaghe was very good
I wish he would of came to North America earlier
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Old 03-12-2020, 02:31 PM #13
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one of the great SMWs, a top ten one for sure.
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Old 03-12-2020, 02:32 PM #14
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I hated watching him fight but I consider him a contemporary great.

I loved it when he punked Hopkins.
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Old 03-12-2020, 03:26 PM #15
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- -Big dummy don't know Toney ate himself out of 168? Wart an nonentity in Joe era.

He fought Roy as soon as he could Shake Warren Shackles, and we saw the results.

What grade U in?

The results were calzaghe beat a Roy Jones that was 3-3 in his last 6 fights including being knocked out twice in those 3 losses.

That win holds no weight
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Old 03-12-2020, 03:27 PM #16
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He was a winner, he always found a way to win. I don't think he's the #1 SMW (I think Roy Jones is) but he's near the top, one of the ATG at SMW.
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Old 03-12-2020, 03:32 PM #17
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He was a great fighter. Very tough style for any opponent. He's right up there with Ward at 168. Roy was the best of the three, but the other two had more fights at that weight class and better wins in totality...Though, Roy's win over Toney is the best of the bunch.
This^^^^^^^^

I'll always be grateful to Joe for slapping up Lacy. One of the greatest beat downs I ever witnessed.
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Old 03-12-2020, 03:51 PM #18
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Zaryu sums him up perfectly; he always found a way to win.

I always rated Joe very highly but I do think the win over Lacy was overrated. Jeff was a 15 fight novice with short arms and slow feet; he was never going to beat Joe.

The wins over Woodhall and Reid have gone under the radar but they were both very good fighters, as was Kessler.

I thought he lost narrowly to Hopkins but showed what he was about in the closing stages with a great effort.

I'd have to take Roy in his prime to beat Joe. It's worth noting that Joe didn't exactly go chasing after him when he was in his pomp, saying that Jones "had earned the right to pick and choose".

Is a shame we never got to Calzaghe v Froch but I think that Joe was about business by that stage. For what it's worth, I think he beats Froch. I'd probably take him over Benn and Collins too.

Andre Ward... that's a tough one. Like Joe, Andre always found a way.
I lean towards Calzaghe but it's a very close call.
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:10 PM #19
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Old 03-12-2020, 06:16 PM #20
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One of the top-15 greatest fighters, in all weights classes of the past 30 years.
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