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Old 03-04-2020, 03:34 PM #31
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If those guys retired today -

Kovalev - 50/50 - The dip in form at the end of his career/the bad fortune he had officially in the 2 Ward fights/the character issues that really came out at the end of his career - all hurt his candidacy imho a bit more than it should

Pacman - 100 - no explanation needed

Canelo - 100 - with the names on his resume, even today one can easily make a case for his entry..of course there is a bit of smoke and mirrors with Canelo...but with his mega star power and good boxing performances he is a shoo-in.

Anthony Joshua - 30/70 - I don't really see the case for AJ...even his win over Wlad is a bit tainted as Fury had just dethroned Wlad a year or so prior

Tyson Fury - 70/30 - his wins over Wlad and Wilder are two historic, imho, wins...on the road, big underdog in one and underdog in the other...first man in 70 years or w/e to beat Wlad...first man to actually beat Wilder who is a ferocious puncher....no official losses.

Rigo - 60/40 - I don't follow the little guys all that much...bit Rigo's poor showing against Loma, even though the weight and age were not in his favor, will hurt his candidacy I think...that was a big 'moment' fight for him, when he had a lot of eyes on him...and he performed very poorly unfortunately...but again I am not an expert on what the little guys have done so he could be higher or lower than 60-40

Beterbiev - 10/90 - I don't see the case at all here

GGG - 95/5 - should be a shoo-in...can make a good case of him being an ATG at 160, a top 3 premier division in boxing (WW MW HW)...probably will only hurt his legacy from here on out, but should still get in regardless of what happens

Chocolatito - ? No idea honestly

New names:

Usyk - 20/80 - not yet...just needs to have some success at HW probably to get in though
Lomachenko - 50/50 - not yet...needs a few more good wins I think
Donaire - 80/20 - probably?
Crawford - 50/50 - similar to Loma

Inoue - ? No idea

I don't follow the smaller weights too much...so the Rigo/Chocolatito guys are kind of uncertain for me...I never know what to rate guys at those low weights.

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Old 03-04-2020, 04:36 PM #32
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Adding some names that haven't been discussed.

Although its hard to accurately consider little guys bc they get disrespected re the HOF, meanwhile any Heavyweight with a half-way decent title reign gets a free pass. (And yes, Chocolatito is a lock, and Monster looks like a lock too).

Estrada is like 90% lock

Nietes should be a lock too (but may not be bc Asian-based dudes are overlooked)

Ioka should be IMO 60/40 to get in. He can solidify himself by making more noise at Supafly



Someone brought up Mikey. I would argue he is like 40/60. Aside from Salido, he beat the B and B- dudes across many divisions (and lol if you consider Broner "A"). I don't know if this is enough. He needs to beat some more A & B+ dudes.

Speaking of Siri Ö does he have a shot? He's got a strange resume, I don't know what to do with Siri. Probably not.
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Old 03-04-2020, 04:42 PM #33
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wtf would Beterbiev be a hall of fame boxer now?
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Old 03-04-2020, 04:48 PM #34
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Yeah, Beterbiev needs to do more. Its weird, for his lack of long accomplishments, hes pretty old. (Note : I don't follow amateur boxing, so I don't know about his amateur career)

Although if he just beat Bivol, I would say hes wrapped up the division, and that's sometimes enough for me to see someone as HOF, ala Usyk
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Old 03-04-2020, 05:11 PM #35
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Good shoutout of Nietes, I would throw LSC and possibly Oscar Valdez on there.
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Roman Gonzales
Nonito Donaire
Tyson Fury
Manny Pacquiao
Canelo Alvarez
Mikey Garcia
Vasili Lomachenko

I think Donnie Nietes has a good chance also
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Old 03-04-2020, 05:26 PM #37
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Good shoutout of Nietes, I would throw LSC and possibly Oscar Valdez on there.
Oscar Valdez?

I know the HOF doesnít have high standards, but Valdez hasnít really achieved much, so I donít understand that one
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Anthony Joshua conclusively beat Wladimir Kiltschko 'In probably the heavyweight fight of the decade'.

Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua, Canelo Alvarez, Deontay Wilder.

Are all hall of fame fighters etc
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Rigo beat Donaire but some are claiming Donaire gets in and Rigo is iffy. It just shows the number of casuals on this forum.
I think Rigo probably gets in but I don't think your logic is correct here.

Robbie Simms beat Roberto Duran but he's not in the HOF. Beating a HOF fighter is great but it guarantees you nothing.
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Oscar Valdez?

I know the HOF doesnít have high standards, but Valdez hasnít really achieved much, so I donít understand that one
That's the thing. The more you think about Rigo, the more you realize he isn't HOF-worthy. He has one phenomenal win, a few "meh" wins, and that's it.

Yeah, just looked at Valdez' boxrec. I thought he had a better resume. That's why I thought if people think Rigo gets in, Valdez would get in as-well.
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