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Old 07-01-2018, 05:14 AM #11
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--- Sultan, Valuev, and Chagaev were sound boxers who also have size over most champs worth Valuev the King of size.

Ring did an interview with the great Cuban trainer, Diaz I think is the name who trained all the great Cuban heavies said Chagaev was the strongest fighter he ever worked with.

Former LH contender john scully was in Germany when he first saw Valuev whose size and speed were breathtaking.

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Old 07-06-2018, 09:10 PM #12
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Six ounce gloves under the old rules and practices. We choose not to follow our usual practice of abiding by the rules and customs of the oldest participants, for that would mean going all the way back to the bare knuckle era.

1 John L. Sullivan
2 Seirhei Liakovich
3 Oleg Masakaev
4 Ruslan Chagaev
5 Nicolai Valuev
6 Maual Charr
7 Charles Martin
8 Lucas Browne
9 Bermane Stiverne
10 Sultan Ibrigamov

One thing is immediately apparent: the contemporary era has sunk so low that the old standbys such as Carnera, Sharkey, Johansson, Ruiz et al can no longer even make the list of worst heavyweight champions.

A second thing is immediately apparent. A great deal of the mediocrity stems from Russia or its former sattelites. These reds have kept some true medioctrities off the list all right.

Who can really say who is the worst of this pack of bums? Just put the names in a jar and shake them up well. We give the worst position to Sullivan only because he would be the most out of his element due to the time period. He was more of a fighter than any of these bums, as far as that goes. The other bums would run from him and peck at him.
Why isn't Haye on that list?
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:30 AM #13
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I musta forgot.
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Old 07-07-2018, 03:48 PM #14
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I musta forgot.
You are kinda old.....
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Old 07-07-2018, 06:35 PM #15
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I would call this list the Sloppy Party Bottom 10 of heavyweight champions. For lineal, that would be Buster Douglas, as he completely fell apart after winning the title.
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I would call this list the Sloppy Party Bottom 10 of heavyweight champions. For lineal, that would be Buster Douglas, as he completely fell apart after winning the title.
He's better than roid boy Joshua
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I would call this list the Sloppy Party Bottom 10 of heavyweight champions. For lineal, that would be Buster Douglas, as he completely fell apart after winning the title.
And retired by the king, Lou Savarese
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Only one fighter from that list was ever worlds hwt champion. Sullivan. The rest are all contenders lucky to live in an era where a contender can be called a hwt champion.
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:27 PM #19
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Bottom ten hwt champions? In no specific order:

Rahman
Leon Spinks
Moore
Briggs
Mike Spinks
Fury
Carnera
Braddock
Sharkey
Willard
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Bottom ten hwt champions? In no specific order:

Rahman
Leon Spinks
Moore
Briggs
Mike Spinks
Fury
Carnera
Braddock
Sharkey
Willard

Whaddya got, Burns and Hart beating Fury, Mike Spinks and Rahman?


Now I can see Fitz possibly sinking his arm like a harpoon into Fury's gut and withdrawing it a winner.
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