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  • #21
    Originally posted by Stinger1 View Post
    AJ would make about $50m fighting Fury
    Impossible. That's not a major US PPV, so how is that revenue being generated? Also, Fury is with Warren and isn't going to do the fight for anything less than a significant slice of the pie. 45% or possibly even 50%. Explain how the fight could possibly generate enough revenue for AJ to make 50 million? There's no way.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
      It was 80 million for two fights according to Warren. AJ is gonna need 4 fights and NO DECLINE IN POPULARITY to match that.

      Not going to happen...

      Joshuas popularity is not going to decline. I don't know if you heard but he is expected to sell 190k tickets for his next 2 fights and he will probably surpass that $50m for it considering that the new owner of Wembley is likely to be the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

      And he don't need to go and get robbed in Vegas for it either.

      Yes, $30m is significant, but don't patronise a guy who is the ONLY money maker in heavyweight boxing right now. He ain't gonna sell all his A side privelages.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        Impossible. That's not a major US PPV, so how is that revenue being generated? Also, Fury is with Warren and isn't going to do the fight for anything less than a significant slice of the pie. 45% or possibly even 50%. Explain how the fight could possibly generate enough revenue for AJ to make 50 million? There's no way.
        That fight easily makes 50 million should Fury continue to win its to big of a rivalry not to make that much...The Joshua vs Wilder fight THIS year.....makes at least 50 million and that's also Finkels numbers so don't go crying.

        You have no basis as to why Fury vs Joshua doesn't make over 50 million bc theres nothing to base that on.

        It doesn thave to be a major U.S fight.

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        • #24
          why you all present wilder as this guy who is living a struggle collecting pennies is beyond me. they both make the most money of their careers with fighting eachother. fury in 2 or 3 more fights after beating a decent HW may do good for them as well.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by NearHypnos View Post
            AJ gonna make 75 Mil off Wilder? How? He made 30ish vs Parker.







            At Wilder’s current pace, he’d need 5-7 fights to make those 15...

            Sure, AJ won’t make “50” from just one guy but he made 30ish from Parker. Aj WILL make over 50 mil within 3 fights. Probably closer to 60 if he does a little under what he made vs Parker.

            Wilder will NOT make 15 mil in 3 fights.

            The problem with this line of thinking “AJ has no one to fight but Fury*” is that Wilder has even less people to fight...and the only people semi worth fighting AJ already got to them first. Who’s he going to fight? As a huge Wilder fan, I’d really like that answer. Whyte? Parker? Pedvetkin after AJ? Fury? Ortiz...again?

            When it all goes down to s hit, things are even more out of proportion because AJ will always be the draw, he’ll always be the name. He will still be AJ. No one cares who oscar fought. No one cares who Floyd fought. No one cares who Pacquiao fought. No one cares who Canelo fights. And no one cares who AJ fights. Why? Because people will b itch but ultimately still watch because the road leads through them.

            Aj I’m sure will be inconsolable making a low ballpark range of 15-20mil per fight vs lesser comp while Wilder tries to build his name off his leftovers makin 1-2mil. Oh, the humanity.
            Why exactly couldn't Wilder fight Fury? Put it in the UK, and I bet you could see out a stadium with that fight. Only thing is, I'm not sure if you could put it on SHO PPV if it takes place in the afternoon. Now, could that fight take place in the states and put on PPV? Possibly. But Fury isn't fighting Joshua if he is still with BT Sports....Those were the words that came out of Hearn's mouth.

            5-7 fights to make 15 million? Again, what if he fights Fury next year? Joshua will have more options certainly, but he also isn't making anything close to that figure vs anyone in the near future. Not only that, but he negotiated a rematch clause in case he lost so he could walk away with 80-100 million after two Wilder fights.

            Wilder hasn't made 1 million probably since 2014. Don't get the 1.25 million purse number twisted, he's not walking away from less than 2.75-3 million vs the likes of Ortiz. The way Haymon sets it up where the main attraction gets some gate revenue and merchandise/food sales as well as giving them a side check, they come out very well.

            So yeah, just because Wilder isn't making 15 million vs anyone else doesn't mean he has to settle for that offer.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
              Impossible. That's not a major US PPV, so how is that revenue being generated? Also, Fury is with Warren and isn't going to do the fight for anything less than a significant slice of the pie. 45% or possibly even 50%. Explain how the fight could possibly generate enough revenue for AJ to make 50 million? There's no way.
              That fight would do 2m UK PPV's at $30, so there's $60m. 100,000 at Wembley at an average ticket price of $150 is another $15m. Then global TV rights would be probably be $10-15m. So that's $75-80m. Maybe you are right.... But that would be Fury pricing himself out as he doesn't deserve anywhere near 45% or 50%. AJ and Eddie aren't doing the fight at anywhere near that split.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by EnglishOxide View Post
                Joshuas popularity is not going to decline. I don't know if you heard but he is expected to sell 190k tickets for his next 2 fights and he will probably surpass that $50m for it considering that the new owner of Wembley is likely to be the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

                And he don't need to go and get robbed in Vegas for it either.

                Yes, $30m is significant, but don't patronise a guy who is the ONLY money maker in heavyweight boxing right now. He ain't gonna sell all his A side privelages.
                Unless one of those fights is Wilder, he wont crack 130,000 total his next two fights.

                Don't get me wrong, he is still gonna make very good money.

                But, he will remain a local star, not the international name he can be.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                  That fight easily makes 50 million should Fury continue to win its to big of a rivalry not to make that much...The Joshua vs Wilder fight THIS year.....makes at least 50 million and that's also Finkels numbers so don't go crying.

                  You have no basis as to why Fury vs Joshua doesn't make over 50 million bc theres nothing to base that on.

                  It doesn thave to be a major U.S fight.

                  There's never been a fight in the UK that paid out 100 million to the participants.

                  There's absolutely no way to generate enough revenue in the UK to pay out 100 million to the participants.

                  Do the math. Where is the money coming from? It's impossible.

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                  • #29
                    I swear we get this exact threads every other day

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by koolkc107 View Post
                      And that's just another unintended blunder by Hearn.

                      His worse nightmare is having Tyson look good again and Fury and Wilder fighting in Wembley before AJ gets a crack at either.

                      Who is going to deny that the winner of that fight is the real champ, belts be damned?
                      Oh yeah, I don't know why people are overlooking the fact this fight could take place before Joshua/Fury. You wouldn't have any network issues as it will be aired on PPV in the UK with BT Sports or Sky Box Office and on SHO in the states. If the fight takes place in the states, then it will be on SHO PPV.

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