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Old 11-14-2018, 01:41 AM #11
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Brook is a two time quitter. I've witnessed fighters with far worse injuries continue and even win their fights.
Okay? What does that matter? If you label Brook a quitter that makes Spence's win even WORSE. Spence needed 10-11 rounds to stop a QUITTER.

A quitter who was coming off very unfavorable conditions and was, literally, damaged goods. And that quitter was still dead even at 4-4 after 8 rounds.
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:54 AM #12
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Okay? What does that matter? If you label Brook a quitter that makes Spence's win even WORSE. Spence needed 10-11 rounds to stop a QUITTER.

A quitter who was coming off very unfavorable conditions and was, literally, damaged goods. And that quitter was still dead even at 4-4 after 8 rounds.
I agree that Spence did not beat a 100% Brook. Kell Brook is damaged goods psychologically. Very hard to recover from that. Once you quit once, its always an easier option to do again.

As far as the fight goes, while Brook did win a few rounds, Spence was clearly always in control and took over and broke Brook down. He looked much better than Usyk breaking Bellew down this weekend.
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Old 11-14-2018, 02:16 AM #13
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Holy krap! Spence is so much bigger than Mikey. Garcia has guts! Big payday for both fighters though. I don't think Mikey can hurt Spence. He needs to fight a perfect fight or else..lights out!
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Old 11-14-2018, 02:16 AM #14
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Old 11-14-2018, 02:22 AM #15
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Lol.. I agree Even though Mikeys last fight was at 135, I still think hes the best at 140.. so, this is really a 147 vs 140.. I'm interested in seeing Mikey's power at 147.. potential Pros: what if mikey hits even harder at 147? What if 147 is perfect for him? ... potential Cons: What if he loses power, speed, and reflexes, Timing? This is a extremely interesting fight.. im a fan of both so I have absolutely no choice but to buy this fight!!!! I don't care if its a 100 for HD with zero undercards.. I will buy two! Also Looking forward to seeing " one time" back in action. He will KO lopez..

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Old 11-14-2018, 02:34 AM #16
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Spence is already legit 154 imo, while you can say Mikey is at 140. Still huge disparity
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Old 11-14-2018, 02:49 AM #17
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I agree that Spence did not beat a 100% Brook. Kell Brook is damaged goods psychologically. Very hard to recover from that. Once you quit once, its always an easier option to do again.

As far as the fight goes, while Brook did win a few rounds, Spence was clearly always in control and took over and broke Brook down. He looked much better than Usyk breaking Bellew down this weekend.
Styles make fights. Bellew was a better opponent than Brook at the time and Errol and Usyk fought.

Errol did win better, but I still give Usyk more credit.

Bellew was in better shape, coming off consecutive wins and career wins against David Haye, and he hadn't been damaged mentally (or physically). Kell was damaged physically and mentally and he was drained after he tried to put on muscle weight before dropping muscle weight without any tuneups in between fights.

Anyone who has boxed or even trained for anything athletic understands you can't put on muscle and then drop weight again without sacrificing something...usually it's punch resistance and stamina (see Kell Brook, RJJ, Chad Dawson, DLH, etc.). That's why the large majority of fighters don't go up and down weight classes; they typically stay at one class or move up, not down.
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Old 11-14-2018, 03:01 AM #18
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Spence is already legit 154 imo, while you can say Mikey is at 140. Still huge disparity
Mikey's last fight was at 135. Why is he a 140 pounder? He looked chunky at 140

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Mikey's last fight was at 135. Why is he a 140 pounder? He looked chunky at 140

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That's make this more ridiculous
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Old 11-14-2018, 03:42 AM #20
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Styles make fights. Bellew was a better opponent than Brook at the time and Errol and Usyk fought.

Errol did win better, but I still give Usyk more credit.

Bellew was in better shape, coming off consecutive wins and career wins against David Haye, and he hadn't been damaged mentally (or physically). Kell was damaged physically and mentally and he was drained after he tried to put on muscle weight before dropping muscle weight without any tuneups in between fights.

Anyone who has boxed or even trained for anything athletic understands you can't put on muscle and then drop weight again without sacrificing something...usually it's punch resistance and stamina (see Kell Brook, RJJ, Chad Dawson, DLH, etc.). That's why the large majority of fighters don't go up and down weight classes; they typically stay at one class or move up, not down.
Pure nonsense. Bellew is and has always been a B level boxer, stop trying to pump up Usyk for looking like a crap against a drained, past it opponent.
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