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    Camp Floyd's ploy: engineer a decision win

    December 17, 8:59 PM Houston Boxing Examiner Marv Dumon

    Intro: Nearly 2,500 years ago, Chinese military strategist Sun Tzu declared in his timeless treatise The Art of War: "The battle is won before it is fought."

    The actual battle itself is but the fourth and last element - not the first - in the four variables that decide a contest.
    The Four Culprits >

    1. Psychological / Mental State

    2. Arsenal / Tools / Miscellaneous Variables

    3. Environment / Weather / Landscape Conditions

    4. Actual Battle

    According to Sun Tzu, a military commander wins the Actual Battle ( no. 4 ) by first creating favorable conditions. We attribute these conditions as: (1) the psychological / mental state, (2) arsenal / tools / miscellaneous variables, and (3) environment / weather / landscape conditions.

    As "Master" Freddie Roach has employed techniques that utilized pre-fight ploys to secure favorable conditions for his fighter, so too does Camp Mayweather attempt to use these factors to sway the outcome of the battle in their favor. They are attempting to engineer a decision win on behalf of their client. Camp Mayweather knows that, if things go as planned, the fight will go the full distance. These pre-fight efforts will lead to a win or loss on March 13th.

    The First Ploy ( Psychological / Mental State ): Require Olympic-type drug testing. The Mayweathers are already aware that the Pacman has passed all of his tests, and therefore, he has been clean. The requirement of more stringent tests is a psychological / mental maneuver on their opponent. They want Manny to enter the fight angry. When a boxer is emotional, he thinks less. Floyd's strategy for winning this fight is by way of his mental prowess: real-time adjustments and surgical jabs or counters. Pacquiao is angry at the steroids accusation. Camp Floyd hopes that Manny will be a more of an emotional fighter, and less of a rational boxer, come March 13th. Ploy # 1 has succeeded.

    The Second Ploy ( Arsenal / Tools / Miscellaneous ): In an interview with Sky Sports, Freddie Roach stated that Camp Mayweather had wanted a 154 lb. junior welterweight limit. Reportedly, Manny has agreed to a more natural 147 lb limit. On fight night, Manny will likely weigh 149 lbs. Floyd will likely weigh around 156 lbs. Now, Floyd is allegedly demanding leeway and wiggle room as to the contracted weight, meaning he can come in heavier. Camp Mayweather appears to have also secured the right for each fighter to wear their own preferred gloves. Manny will wear the 8 oz. Cleto Reyes "puncher's" gloves, which has much less padding and better grip. Mayweather gets to wear the Japanese Winning gloves. These have more padding, and thus, enhances the blocking ability of the user. It also diminishes one's punching power. That tells you Floyd will not go for a KO. He wants a decision win. Which supports the various plots for engineering a decision win.

    The Third Ploy ( Environment / Weather / Landscape Conditions ): There is talk of the venue at either Las Vegas or Dallas. By all indications, Cowboys Stadium owner Jerry Jones is giving the best offer on the table: $25 million. For a one night event, that is a huge fee. Mr. Jones has several value drivers. He wants his new $1.2 billion stadium to be favored as a multi-sport mega-center where the NFL, Super Bowl, college football, basketball, extreme sports, boxing / MMA, conventions and other recreational or business events can be hosted. The $25 million is a marketing / advertising deductible business expense.

    Plus, he has not been successful in selling the naming rights for his new stadium (i.e., Ebay Stadium or McDonald's Stadium, instead of just Cowboys Stadium), which will cost any company several hundred million dollars. Mr. Jones stadium may be impressive, but it is also riddled with debt. Jerry Jones may be a billionaire, but his aesthetic stadium is nothing but a giant negative cash flow stream, trying to make its gargantuan monthly interest payments. He is desperate for the mega fight. Desperation leads to high bids. But Camp Floyd is rejecting the most lucrative (and desperate) offer. Why? Because holding the fight in Dallas sabotages their engineering efforts at a decision win.
    Which variable is most critical for Floyd Mayweather, Jr

    * Gloves
    * Wiggle room on weight limit
    * Referee allowing him to clench and tie up
    * Judges
    * Venue / Arena

    Second, Camp Floyd knows that 90% of the attendees will be loudly chanting Manny! Manny! Manny! Team Mayweather knows that whatever the venue or city is ultimately chosen, they will face a hostile environment. Therefore, they want to minimize this level of hostility. They want the fight in Las Vegas because the hosting casino will have less than 18,000 fans inside the arena. That is much less of a hostile crowd than 100,000-plus fans in Cowboys Stadium. Do you want 16,000 Pacquiao fans or 90,000 Pacquiao fans cheering for your downfall? Answer: they want the fewest possible number of hostile fans. Camp Floyd wants the fight in Vegas. If you have the fight in Dallas, 90,000 Pacquiao fans (Filipinos, Filipino-Americans, Mexicans, Latinos, Caucasians, etc.), would place tremendous pressure on the judges to vote for Pacquiao in the late championship rounds, should the bout be a close fight. And there's good chance that this could be a close fight, making favorable / friendly judges most critical. A smaller arena places less pressure on judges should the bout be a close one. A smaller arena equals a smaller riot.

    Boxing is a sport / entertainment venue without standardization. Judges, referees, officials, and ringside physicians come from all walks of life. They have to work a regular-full-time job somewhere else in order to support their pugilistic passion. This year, we saw several horrendous scores. Texas judge Gale Van Hoy scored 118-110 in favor of Juan Diaz over Paulie Malignaggi in Houston in August 2009. That was a very close fight. Judges are not certified like how accountants or financial analysts are certified. To become a Texas judge, the standards are not as high. In accounting and finance, there are several difficult-to-achieve certifications: Certified Public Accountant (CPA) - 25% pass rate, Chartered Financial Analysts (CFA) - 10% pass rate, Certified Internal Auditor (CIA) - 50% pass rate, and on and on. Camp Floyd wants to get a decision win over Manny through a friendly referee, judges, favorable gloves, weight, and venue. The battle is won before it is fought. Military commanders around the world would applaud these efforts.

    Floyd's friendly decision victories have recently come from Las Vegas. He has fought his last five fights in Sin City. He won all of them, four by decision. To further engineer a decision win against Manny, he will want favored referees and judges. In a referee, Floyd will want someone who will allow Mayweather to clench and hold often against Pacquiao. Camp Floyd does not want a referee that will easily break up both fighters. That would give the combination-punching Pacquiao room to throw his powerful blows.

    When Manny moves forward to attack, Floyd will tie him up like he tied up Oscar de la Hoya in 2007. In judges, Camp Floyd will want judges that are not biased in favor of aggressive fighters. To engineer a decision win against the offensively-inclined Pacquiao, they will want judges that place a premium on accuracy over work rate. Some judges score a round in favor of a busier fighter. Camp Floyd will want judges that score a round in favor of a more accurate and elusive / defensive fighter. In 2007, judge Tom Kaczmarek scored the bout 113-115 in favor of Oscar de la Hoya over Floyd Mayweather, Jr. Camp Floyd will do everything in its power to keep Kaczmarek, and judges like him, from officiating a fight with Pacquiao. They will want someone like judge Jerry Roth. Roth scored 115-113 in favor of Floyd over Oscar in 2007. In a highly contested first fight with Jose Luis Castillo in 2002 (where some argue that Castillo beat Mayweather), Jerry Roth scored the bout 115-111 for Floyd. Camp Mayweather will likely want Roth again to officiate the Pacquiao fight.
    Conclusions >

    Floyd Mayweather, Jr and Manny Pacquiao are participants in a contest, that's true. Who will really decide the winner? Odds are, this bout will go the full 12 rounds (given Mayweather's defensive and risk-averse fighting style). Therefore, three boxing officials will decide this fight. Floyd and Manny may be boxing each other. But the winner will be chosen by these three officials. This is part of the "sensitive" negotiations process that may ultimately decide the winner - even before the bout takes place.

    Who elects the U.S. President? Answer # 1: The American people. Wrong! The electoral college selects the U.S. President. The American Founding Fathers wanted to ensure that an appropriate (and sound) individual is elected to the highest office of the land (and to assume responsibilities of commander-in-chief of the entire U.S. military). The electoral college is a 300 year-old risk management mechanism in the U.S. political system. The American citizen merely selects the electoral voter - the actual person who casts his or her vote for the next U.S. president.

    Do not believe what you see. Reality is what people don't want you to see. What you hear is not what happened. What you hear is what the messenger wants you to think. The naive are at fault for their own blood, not others.

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-4...a-decision-win

  • #2
    I read somewhere that Roach says that Manny will win a 12 round decision....

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    • #3
      Very good article, Lady fan. That was an entertaining read.

      It will be interesting to see if Jerry Roth DOES officiate on March 13.

      Dallas is the fan's choice for venue, but money talks and the fight will be in Vegas... Floyd's hometown.

      Things do look to be in Floyd's favor right now.

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      • #4
        That **** is so biased. All he does is go by what Roach said about weight even though Roach already admitted that he just assumed 154. Floyd never said that. Then he says Floyd doesnt want it in Texas because it will be 90% Pac fans. Thats the dumbest thing ever. These writers arent even smart enough to realize that this is a mega fight that is considered to be even. That means you will have a ton of people wagering on the fight and the odds will be so good that I bet anything that half the crowd will have bet on Floyd. That crowd will definatly not be pro Pac. He talks about Floyd fighting in Vegas for the comfort of the judges? Dude is the #1 fighter in the game and 90% of fights are in Vegas. Thats why he fights there all the time, just like Pac also does. Then like a clown he tries to twist it as an advantage for Floyd that he let both fighters choose there gloves. Whats wrong with that? Pac loves that. If Floyd is using bigger gloves then that should benefit Pac since the critics think he will walk through Floyd's shots.

        Then even worst then listening to Roach about the weight, he goes on & on himself assuming things. He says that Floyd will want these kind of judges. Floyd dont care nothing about judges when most of his fights have been domination. If Floyd wants a certain kind of judge then Pac will also want a certain kind of judge. Dont try to put the **** all on Floyd. The same thing with the ref. I also think its funny how everyone thinks Floyd holds so much. Since when? Because he held a few guys who were huge? He doesnt hold that much. The ref wont be a factor in this fight. The **** is so biased. Everything he said about Floyd is just **** he assumed and if you can say those things about Floyd then you can say the exact things about Pac in the opposite direction

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        • #5
          Originally posted by COACH WEBB View Post
          I read somewhere that Roach says that Manny will win a 12 round decision....

          I think he is just anticipating 12 rnds because of Floyd's defense. I don't think the Pac Camp would want it to go 12.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Deedubbzz07 View Post
            I think he is just anticipating 12 rnds because of Floyd's defense. I don't think the Pac Camp would want it to go 12.
            you dont think Floyd wants to knock Pac out?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Deedubbzz07 View Post
              I think he is just anticipating 12 rnds because of Floyd's defense. I don't think the Pac Camp would want it to go 12.
              I disagree. I think Roach wants to make Pac outwork Floyd to win the early to mid rounds in order to force Floyd to engage in the last half of the fight.

              That way even if Pac doesn't get the late KO he'd still be ahead on the cards.

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              • #8
                Mayweather's Threatened Pullout is 'Bull,' Adviser Says

                Reports that Floyd Mayweather is trying to scuttle his March 13 WBO title fight with champion Manny Pacquiao over issues with the 147-pound welterweight limit are false, Mayweather's adviser, Leonard Ellerbe, told FanHouse on Wednesday morning.

                "It's a bunch a bull****. At no point was there any time that Floyd tried to make a deal with the fight being over 147, and you can quote me on that," said Ellerbe. "That's a bunch of bull****. We never ever had a discussion about anything above 147."

                http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/1...-adviser-says/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mangler
                  Not readin all that ****.

                  But yea, it's goin 12.
                  I agree, no way I'm reading all that ****. One should know the Boxingscene rules. It's 9/10 a waste of time to even post it.

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                  • #10
                    [I] WEll, I guess I can give you credit for talking the time to do this. But I just couldn't make myself read the whole thing./I]

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