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Orlando Salido must be the G.O.A.T. or someone is getting hyped way too much.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostEverybody likes Lomachenko but yeah, there will be a divide very soon because I think there are some posters who don't like that Lomachenko is liked by every fanbase, they need to make some sort of segregation at all times. So there's a tactic i'm seeing that aims to do this, which is overhyping Lomachenko, saying things like he's better than Mayweather, better than Ward, better than Roy Jones (they haven't said Ward or Jones yet but at this pace it will happen). Notice they don't say better than Pacquiao, or better than GGG, or better than Kovalev. They aim at Lomachenko being better than certain boxers. This is intentional, it's to get people mad and fulfill their little racial warzone dreams they have in their heads of white vs black.
Don't pay any attention to it, Loma is a very good fighter, he's destined for greatness, but some fans are using his name for other agendas.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostEverybody likes Lomachenko but yeah, there will be a divide very soon because I think there are some posters who don't like that Lomachenko is liked by every fanbase, they need to make some sort of segregation at all times. So there's a tactic i'm seeing that aims to do this, which is overhyping Lomachenko, saying things like he's better than Mayweather, better than Ward, better than Roy Jones (they haven't said Ward or Jones yet but at this pace it will happen). Notice they don't say better than Pacquiao, or better than GGG, or better than Kovalev. They aim at Lomachenko being better than certain boxers. This is intentional, it's to get people mad and fulfill their little racial warzone dreams they have in their heads of white vs black.
Don't pay any attention to it, Loma is a very good fighter, he's destined for greatness, but some fans are using his name for other agendas.
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I hate to break it to the nuthuggers a potential atg does not lose to the salidos of the world. Does not matter how dirty salido is just look at dam Hopkins dirty fighting a$$. If you are great you will find a way to beat a dirty fighter.
Point being loma has an insane amature record no dam excuse to lose to a dam past prime, shop worn, dirty tactic using and fat out of shape salido.
One thing is for sure loma doesn't like to get hit and is extremely feather fisted for his size and when he faces an iron chin fighter that throws a lot of punches he is going to have serious problems. Any body who is stupid enough to fight loma on the outside is going to get beat, but it is elite brawlers that are going to destroy loma career.Last edited by Wizardsh; 04-14-2017, 12:35 PM.
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostEverybody likes Lomachenko but yeah, there will be a divide very soon because I think there are some posters who don't like that Lomachenko is liked by every fanbase, they need to make some sort of segregation at all times. So there's a tactic i'm seeing that aims to do this, which is overhyping Lomachenko, saying things like he's better than Mayweather, better than Ward, better than Roy Jones (they haven't said Ward or Jones yet but at this pace it will happen). Notice they don't say better than Pacquiao, or better than GGG, or better than Kovalev. They aim at Lomachenko being better than certain boxers. This is intentional, it's to get people mad and fulfill their little racial warzone dreams they have in their heads of white vs black.
Don't pay any attention to it, Loma is a very good fighter, he's destined for greatness, but some fans are using his name for other agendas.
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Originally posted by Wizardsh View PostI hate to break it to the nuthuggers a potential atg does not lose to the salidos of the world. Does not matter how dirty salido is just look at dam Hopkins dirty fighting a$$. If you are great you will find a way to beat a dirty fighter.
Point being loma has an insane amature record no dam excuse to lose to a dam past prime, shop worn, dirty tactic using and fat out of shape salido.
One thing is for sure loma doesn't like to get hit and is extremely feather fisted for his size and when he faces an iron chin fighter that throws a lot of punches he is going to have serious problems. Any body who is stupid enough to fight loma on the outside is going to get beat, but it is elite brawlers that are going to destroy loma career.
You mention Hopkins, but Hopkins lost his first fight to a complete unknown who went 3-1 in his whole career. Hopkins will surely be an ATG.
There's also JMM, Pacquiao, who lost to some unknowns too but they will still go down as HOF'ers and ATG's.
Let's see where Lomachenko's career ends up. That goes both ways, to those already proclaiming he's ATG-bound or he's greater than more accomplished fighters, and to those writing him off because of the Salido loss. Which let's face it, he was against all odds and you could still argue that he may have won.
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Originally posted by Wizardsh View PostI hate to break it to the nuthuggers a potential atg does not lose to the salidos of the world. Does not matter how dirty salido is just look at dam Hopkins dirty fighting a$$. If you are great you will find a way to beat a dirty fighter.
Point being loma has an insane amature record no dam excuse to lose to a dam past prime, shop worn, dirty tactic using and fat out of shape salido.
One thing is for sure loma doesn't like to get hit and is extremely feather fisted for his size and when he faces an iron chin fighter that throws a lot of punches he is going to have serious problems. Any body who is stupid enough to fight loma on the outside is going to get beat, but it is elite brawlers that are going to destroy loma career.
Seriously, maybe look at who ATGs have lost to and when before saying something like "ATGs don't lose to the Salidos of the world."
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostThat's an unfair assessment of what it takes to become an ATG.
You mention Hopkins, but Hopkins lost his first fight to a complete unknown who went 3-1 in his whole career. Hopkins will surely be an ATG.
There's also JMM, Pacquiao, who lost to some unknowns too but they will still go down as HOF'ers and ATG's.
Let's see where Lomachenko's career ends up. That goes both ways, to those already proclaiming he's ATG-bound or he's greater than more accomplished fighters, and to those writing him off because of the Salido loss. Which let's face it, he was against all odds and you could still argue that he may have won.
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I like how Salido has become some highly discussed fighter on here even though he hasn't fought in nearly a year.
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostEarly in their careers? You better ****ing believe ATGs lose to the Salidos of the world. ATGs in their prime have lost to a hell of a lot worse than Orlando Salido.
Seriously, maybe look at who ATGs have lost to and when before saying something like "ATGs don't lose to the Salidos of the world."
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