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    Props to people like Dan Rafael, Harold Lederman, Roy Jones, Al Bernstein, Doug Fischer, Steve Kim and all the others who rose above silly nationalism and were honest in scoring the Kovalev-Ward fight objectively.

    Boxing needs FAIR commentators, as well as fair referees and judges who are ABOVE being biased in favor of a fighter because he was born in the same country.

    The three judges in Kovalev-Ward and Paulie Malignaggi are a disgrace to the sport of boxing with their dishonesty and nationalistic bias.

    And the 2 judges who scored Hooker-Perez a win for Hooker and a draw are a disgrace to the sport.

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      1. Kovalev 10-9
      2. Kovalev 10-8
      3. Kovalev 10-9
      4. Ward 10-9, maybe 10-10
      5. Ward 10-9 - first minute of the round, Ward lands a punishing body shot that spun Kovalev around followed by a check left hook. Another left hook at the 1:44 mark. Ward also lands a crisp jab. At the 1:30 mark, Kovalev hasn't landed anything. Kovalev lands first jab at the :35 second mark. Ward retaliates with his own head snapping jab at the :33 second mark. Ward lands another hard jab at the :20 second mark.
      6. Ward 10-9
      7. Ward 10-9
      8. Ward 10-9
      9. Ward 10-9
      10. Ward 10-9 - Ward lands a blazing two punch combo and uppercut at 2:54 mark. Ward lands a body shot at 2:45. Kov lands a jab at 2:35 mark. They exchange jabs at 2:20. Ward lands a BIG overhand left at 2:10. Follows with two head snapping jabs at 1:51 and 1:48 mark. Kovalev responds by hitting air. They exchange jabs at 1:34. Ward with a nice jab to the body at 1:27. Ward with a HUGE check hook at 1:07 mark. They exchange overhand rights at the :49 second mark. Ward with a HUGE power jab at the :39 second mark, followed by a big overhand right to the kidney's at the :32 second mark. They exhange jabs at the :29 second mark. They exchange jabs at the :20 second mark. Kovalev lands air for the rest of the round
      11. Ward 10-9
      12. Ward 10-9

      Please let me know if you need me to break down any other rounds you thought were close. After the 4th, I thought it was all Ward

      Ward- 116
      Kovalev - 111

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            You mad at us? you should be brawh! hahahaha! I expected this backlash even though Ward had not took the knee but the fact that he showed these ignorant fans a whole new side of him ( and proved them wrong) that they never anticipated is priceless : you all said he needed to clinch....you all said he had no chin...and thought that the fight was over when Sergey put him down! this is the sweetest win for me in a long time...its up there with Chocolatito schooling Cuadras.

            That Krusha powa tho! bwhahaha! and listen baby....you seen GGG's future with Nelo!!! OH!!!

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              Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
              Props to people like Dan Rafael, Harold Lederman, Roy Jones, Al Bernstein, Doug Fischer, Steve Kim and all the others who rose above silly nationalism and were honest in scoring the Kovalev-Ward fight objectively.

              Boxing needs FAIR commentators, as well as fair referees and judges who are ABOVE being biased in favor of a fighter because he was born in the same country.

              The three judges in Kovalev-Ward and Paulie Malignaggi are a disgrace to the sport of boxing with their dishonesty and nationalistic bias.

              And the 2 judges who scored Hooker-Perez a win for Hooker and a draw are a disgrace to the sport.
              Great point. Malignaggi is malignant for the sport. Really tired of his fast talking BS. He never accomplished anything in the ring where it counts anyway.

              It's pretty sad what it's come down to. Boxing gets a chance to put on a great fight but screws up the cards of course. So many excuses and BS made for the challenger. Really pathetic. And it won't be the last of it. More will follow I'm sure.

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                Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
                You mad at us? you should be brawh! hahahaha! I expected this backlash even though Ward had not took the knee but the fact that he showed these ignorant fans a whole new side of him ( and proved them wrong) that they never anticipated is priceless : you all said he needed to clinch....you all said he had no chin...and thought that the fight was over when Sergey put him down! this is the sweetest win for me in a long time...its up there with Chocolatito schooling Cuadras.

                That Krusha powa tho! bwhahaha! and listen baby....you seen GGG's future with Nelo!!! OH!!!

                Shyt like this is what's killing the sport.

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                  hones???? u mean they cant stant to see a skill nubian on top

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                    Originally posted by Chollo Vista View Post
                    1. Kovalev 10-9
                    2. Kovalev 10-8
                    3. Kovalev 10-9
                    4. Ward 10-9, maybe 10-10
                    5. Ward 10-9 - first minute of the round, Ward lands a punishing body shot that spun Kovalev around followed by a check left hook. Another left hook at the 1:44 mark. Ward also lands a crisp jab. At the 1:30 mark, Kovalev hasn't landed anything. Kovalev lands first jab at the :35 second mark. Ward retaliates with his own head snapping jab at the :33 second mark. Ward lands another hard jab at the :20 second mark.
                    6. Ward 10-9
                    7. Ward 10-9
                    8. Ward 10-9
                    9. Ward 10-9
                    10. Ward 10-9 - Ward lands a blazing two punch combo and uppercut at 2:54 mark. Ward lands a body shot at 2:45. Kov lands a jab at 2:35 mark. They exchange jabs at 2:20. Ward lands a BIG overhand left at 2:10. Follows with two head snapping jabs at 1:51 and 1:48 mark. Kovalev responds by hitting air. They exchange jabs at 1:34. Ward with a nice jab to the body at 1:27. Ward with a HUGE check hook at 1:07 mark. They exchange overhand rights at the :49 second mark. Ward with a HUGE power jab at the :39 second mark, followed by a big overhand right to the kidney's at the :32 second mark. They exhange jabs at the :29 second mark. They exchange jabs at the :20 second mark. Kovalev lands air for the rest of the round
                    11. Ward 10-9
                    12. Ward 10-9

                    Please let me know if you need me to break down any other rounds you thought were close. After the 4th, I thought it was all Ward

                    Ward- 116
                    Kovalev - 111
                    -The Mom of Ward-

                    Real talk:

                    Douglass Fischer (The Ring) 117-110 Kovalev

                    Andrew Harrison (Boxing Monthly) 117-111 Kovalev

                    Harold Lederman (HBO) 116-111 Kovalev

                    Bernardo Osuna (ESPN) 115-113 Kovalev

                    Chris Mannix (Yahoo) 115-112 Kovalev

                    Al Bernstein (Showtime) 115-112 Kovalev

                    Dan Rafael (ESPN) 115-112 Kovalev

                    Bad Left Hook 115-112 Kovalev

                    Steve Kim (Boxing Scene) 115-112 Kovalev

                    Lance Pugmire (Los Angeles Times) 115-112 Kovalev

                    Revista Bokser 115-112 Kovalev

                    Eduardo Lamazon (best analyst in Latin America) 115-112 Kovalev

                    Ryan ******** (The Ring) 115-112 Kovalev

                    Eric Raskin (HBO) 114-113 Kovalev

                    Boxing Monthly 114-113 Kovalev

                    Kieran Mulvaney (HBO) 114-113 Kovalev

                    Damián Ferrer (La Esquina Neutral) 114-113 Kovalev

                    Frankie Piñero (La Esquina Neutral) 114-113 Kovalev

                    Marcelo González (Canal Space) 114-113 Kovalev

                    Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN) 114-113 Kovalev

                    César González Gómez (Izquierdazo) 114-113 Kovalev

                    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) 114-113 Ward

                    The Ring 114-113 Ward

                    Mike Coppinger (USA Today) 114-113 Ward

                    Brian Campbell (ESPN) 114-113 Ward

                    Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook) 116-111 Ward


                    Plus:






                    Except in this forum full of ignorants americans fans sick of patriotism.

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