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Old 04-29-2015, 10:20 PM #1
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:24 PM #2
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it won't be allowed for use by the FDA in America, because its not a patentable drug that can be sold for billions. the FDA has made a law that only drugs can cure disease, that little herb will be bought up by the drug company and made to disappear, just like drug company profits would if this little secret ever got out
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:25 PM #3
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it won't be allowed for use by the FDA in America, because its not a patentable drug that can be sold for billions. the FDA has made a law that only drugs can cure disease, that little herb will be bought up by the drug company and made to disappear, just like drug company profits would if this little secret ever got out
why not just buy it off the internet from reputable sellers.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:28 PM #4
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it won't be allowed for use by the FDA in America, because its not a patentable drug that can be sold for billions. the FDA has made a law that only drugs can cure disease, that little herb will be bought up by the drug company and made to disappear, just like drug company profits would if this little secret ever got out
Beat me to it. Same **** with weed, but now that the word's out they're a bit late. Still trying to say some bull**** and slow the process of legalization though.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:44 PM #5
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it won't be allowed for use by the FDA in America, because its not a patentable drug that can be sold for billions. the FDA has made a law that only drugs can cure disease, that little herb will be bought up by the drug company and made to disappear, just like drug company profits would if this little secret ever got out
l assume the herb existed for millions of years, making it disappear is equivalent to an asteroid as big as mount everest hitting the earth point blank. lol
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:47 PM #6
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it won't be allowed for use by the FDA in America, because its not a patentable drug that can be sold for billions. the FDA has made a law that only drugs can cure disease, that little herb will be bought up by the drug company and made to disappear, just like drug company profits would if this little secret ever got out
That's how it goes. Powerful drug companies should be protected. My father died from terminal cancer. Chemotherapy didn't help him at all it just made him suffer more and so our pockets.
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Old 04-29-2015, 10:51 PM #7
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That's how it goes. Powerful drug companies should be protected. My father died from terminal cancer. Chemotherapy didn't help him at all it just made him suffer more and so our pockets.
Sorry bro. Chemo does more damage than cancer itself half the time, and even if it extends your lifespan by a few months, hell even a year, you're suffering the whole time. It's a ****ty thing to deal with.
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Mag iinom na lang ako kesa sa putang inang chemo na yan.
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it won't be allowed for use by the FDA in America, because its not a patentable drug that can be sold for billions. the FDA has made a law that only drugs can cure disease, that little herb will be bought up by the drug company and made to disappear, just like drug company profits would if this little secret ever got out
Interesting you should say that:

" According to studies published in Life Sciences, Cancer Letters and Anticancer Drugs, artemesinin, a derivative of the wormwood plant commonly used in Chinese medicine, can kill off cancer cells, and do it at a rate of 12,000 cancer cells for every healthy cell. "

From the article it refers not to a "chinese herb" (which is actually wormwood) but to a chemical which can be derived from the plant. You can't patent a plant but you can patent...

"Henry Lai and his team of researchers from the University of Washington synthesized the compound, which uses a cancer cells appetite for iron to make them the target. The great thing about artemisinin is that alone it can selectively kill cancer cells while leaving normal cells unharmed.

“By itself, artemisinin is about 100 times more selective in killing cancer cells as opposed to normal cells. Artemisinin is 34,000 times more potent in killing the cancer cells as opposed to their normal cousins. So the tagging process appears to have greatly increased the potency of artemisinin’s cancer-killing properties.” – Henry Lai"

So what has actually happened here is that a promising lead has been developed and a new compound synthesized, along with a process for implementing it which enhances its efficacy. Both the new compound and the process are patentable. This is a new process and as such human trials haven't begun yet. But it's not a panacaea. If successful it will join the suite of treatments already available for cancer, it's not going to be necessarily replacing any existing methods.

I wanted to finish off my reading of the article by pointing out the strange sign-off:

"It’s really time to move beyond just radiation, surgery and chemotherapy for the treatment of cancer."

Using artemisin to treat cancer means introducing chemicals into the patient's body. In other words if this treatment turns out to prove safe and effective it's not a replacement for chemotherapy, it is chemotherapy.

Chemotherapy works by killing cells, but the challenge is to target the cancerous cells and leave the healthy tissue relatively undamaged. Based purely on the posted article Artemisinin shows promise but needs considerable further development. It's really not the thing to start ordering online and trying to treat yourself.

By the way the drug in question is already used in treating malaria. It is synthesized by pharmaceutical companies.
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Originally Posted by kadyo View Post
l assume the herb existed for millions of years, making it disappear is equivalent to an asteroid as big as mount everest hitting the earth point blank. lol
Millions of years? Also why would anyone make it disappear? It's being used by pharmaceutical companies right now to make anti-malarial drugs!

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Sorry bro. Chemo does more damage than cancer itself half the time,
The effectiveness of chemotherapy depends on the type of cancer and the stage it't at. Some cancers are resistant to chemotherapy. All chemotherapy does the same thing: It kills cells. The hope is to kill off the cancer cells before it does too much damage to the patient's healthy cells.

Through advances in chemo- and radio-therapies survival rates for most cancers are improving and the impact of the side effects of the treatment are getting much better. It's unfortunate that medical quacks and charlatans are so eager to exploit the lack of understanding most people have with regards to cancer in order to sell ineffective snake-oils to people who are dying.

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and even if it extends your lifespan by a few months, hell even a year, you're suffering the whole time. It's a ****ty thing to deal with.
Chemotherapy works. The side effects are unpleasant, but the treatment works. That's why we use it.
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