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  • #11
    Johnny Dundee:

    Tony Canzoneri.
    Sammy Mandell.
    Lew Tendler.
    Benny Leonard.
    Freddie Welsh.

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    • #12
      Tiger Flowers:
      Maxie Rosenbloom
      Mickey Walker
      Jack Delaney
      Harry Greb
      Kid Norfolk
      Sam Langford
      Panama Joe Gans

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      • #13
        Here's a list I made out a couple of years ago:


        List of Non-HOFers, who have fought 8 HOFers or more – Blue=Wins, Red=Draws (Counting Newspaper Decisions)

        This also includes Jack Blackburn and Charley Goldman, who were Inducted as Trainers and Ruby Goldstein who was Inducted as a referee.

        1. Johnny Risko 12 (Sharkey, Tunney, Schmeling, Baer, Berlenbach, Loughran, Slattery, Walker, JHLewis, Delaney, Stribling, Godfrey) - (8-14-0)

        2. Charley White 11 (Attell, Kilbane, Dundee, Moran, AWolgast, Britton, Ritchie, Welsh, TLewis, BLeonard, Kansas) – (7-13-2)

        3. Gunboat Smith 11 (Willard, Langford, Blackburn, Carpentier, Levinsky, Dillon, Norfolk, Dempsey, Miske, Greb, Wills) – (4-17-1)

        4. Memphis Pal Moore 10 (KWilliams, Herman, Lynch, Wilde, Criqui, Mandell, BudTaylor, Genaro, McLarnin, LaBarba) – (12-6-7)


        5. Fireman Jim Flynn 10 (Burns, Johnson, Langford, Papke, O’Brien, Levinsky, Dillon, Dempsey, Miske, Flowers) – (4-18-2)


        6. Frankie Wallace 10 (Miller, Ambers, Chocolate, Bass, Arizmendi, Canzoneri, Montanez, Berg, Montgomery, Robinson) – (2-17-2)

        7. Joe Lohman 10 (Flowers, Loughran, Tunney, Stribling, Slattery, Greb, Delaney, Berlenbach, Levinsky, Walker) – (0-17-1)

        8. Jack Twin Sullivan 10 (Blackburn, O’Brien, McCoy, Burns, Ketchel, Klaus, Papke, Jeannette, Dillon, Levinsky) - (2-10-3)


        9. Paul Pirrone 9 (Soose, Apostoli, Steele, Walker, Corbett III, GJones, Brouillard, Yarosz, Fields) – (2-9-0)


        10. Porky Dan Flynn 9 **Klaus, Ketchell, Jeannette, Langford, Levinsky, Dillon, Norfolk, Dempsey, TGibbons) – (0-18-4) – (1 NC)


        11. Mike McTigue 9 (Walker, Loughran, Sharkey, Berlenbach, Delaney, Flowers, Stribling, Levinsky, Greb) – (3-12-1)


        12. Chuck Wiggins 9 (Greb, Levinsky, TGibbons, MGibbons, Tunney, Flowers, Loughran, Godfrey, Stribling) – (2-21-6)


        13. Leo Houck 9 (Britton, Lewis, Klaus, Levinsky, Dillon, Papke, MGibbons, Greb, Tunney) – (9-14-2) – 2 NC)

        14. Harlem Tommy Murphy 9 (Attell, Dixon, McGovern, Corbett II, Harris, McFarland, Moran, AWolgast, Ritchie) - (7-12-2)

        15. Eddie Ran 9 (Zivic, Canzoneri, Steele, Kaplan, Petrolle, Yarosz, Cerdan, Battalino, Montanez) – (1-8-0)

        16. Willie Lewis 9 (Carpentier, MGibbons, Dixie Kid, Klaus, Ketchel, HLewis, Papke, Gans, Langford) - (5-8-2) - (2 NC)


        17. George KO Brown 9 (Greb, TGibbons, MGibbons, Miske, Levinsky, Darcy, Dillon, Klaus, HLewis) – (0-23-3) – (1 NC)


        18. Jack Renault 9 (Stribling, Loughran, Delaney, Godfrey, Sharkey, Tunney, Miske, Greb, Levinsky) – (2-9-1) – (1 NC)

        19. Young Erne 9(McFarland, Ritchie, MGibbons, Britton, Welsh, Corbett ll, Lavigne, Attell, HLewis) – (7-11-2)


        20. Joe Mandot 9 (Dundee, Leonard, TLewis, Kansas, Kilbane, AWolgast, Welsh, Ritchie, Moran) – (3-5-6)

        21. Joe Grim 9 (Levinsky, McVae, Johnson, Blackburn, Dixie Kid, Gans, Fitzsimmons, Walcott, O'Brien) – (0-13-0) – (1 NC)

        22. Paulino Uzcudun 8 (Baer, Schmeling, Louis, Loughran, Walker, Delaney, Wills, Godfrey) – (2-7-1)

        23. Johnny Farr 8 (Bass, Miller, Canzoneri, McLarnin, Ross, Kaplan, BudTaylor, Chocolate) – (2-20-0)


        24. Georgie Abrams 8 (Robinson, Soose, Burley, Apostoli, Zale, Brouillard, Yarosz, Cerdan) - (5-4-1)


        25. Eddie Shea 8 (Bass, Miller, Wright, BudTaylor, Chocolate, Arizmendi, LaBarba, Battalino) – (4-7-0)


        26. Lew Massey 8 (Armstrong, Bass, MWolgast, HWilliams, Canzoneri, BudTaylor, Angott, Battalino) – (3-8-0)


        27. Young Peter Jackson 8 (Griffo, O’Brien, MBSmith, Walcott, Dixie Kid, Langford, Johnson, Jeannette) – (4-16-4)


        28. Soldier Bartfield 8 (Britton, MGibbons, TLewis, Greb, Papke, BLeonard, Walker, Slattery) – (8-19-4)


        29. Frank Mantell 8 (HLewis, Papke, Klaus, Dixie Kid, Dillon, Levinsky, Greb, MGibbons) – (2-12-1) - (1 NC)


        30. Joe Glick 8 (Dundee, McLarnin, Bass, Kaplan, Berg, Canzoneri, Corbett III, Steele) – (1-12-0) – (1 NC)


        31. Matty Baldwin 8 (Welsh, Attell, Driscoll, AWolgast, Moran, Ritchie, Britton, Dundee) – (3-9-3)

        32. Nate Bolden 8 (Moore, Bivins, Burley, LaMotta, Maxim, Zale, Yarosz, Marshall) – (3-12-0)

        33. Bob Moha 8 (Greb, TGibbons, Levinsky, Dillon, Miske, MGibbons, Papke, Dixie Kid) – (3-14-1)

        34. Tommy Robson 8 (Britton, TLewis, Greb, Delaney, MGibbons, Stribling, Flowers, Slattery) – (2-11-0)

        35. Tony Marullo 8 (Stribling, Berlenbach, Delaney, Loughran, Greb, Rosenbloom, Slattery, Walker) – (0-13-0) (1 NC)

        36. Gus Christie 8 (MGibbons, Dillon, Darcy, Miske, Levinsky, Norfolk, TGibbons, Greb) – (1-22-2)


        37. Phil Pal Moore 8 (Driscoll, Moran, Attell, Welsh, Nelson, BLeonard, Britton, Dundee) – (3-7-2) – (1 NC)

        38. Lockport Jimmy Duffy 8 (Welsh, McFarland, Britton, Dundee, TLewis, Kansas, Tendler, BLeonard) – (6-11-0)

        39. Jackie Clark 8 (Slattery, Flowers, Greb, Delaney, Stribling, Loughran, TGibbons, Blackburn) – (1-10-3) – (1 NC)

        40. Larry Williams 8 (Levinsky, Jeannette, Dillon, Miske, Blackburn, TGibbons, Norfolk, Greb) – (2-13-0)

        41. Frankie Burns 8 (Coulon, Goldman, Attell, Kilbane, Herman, Williams, AWolgast, Lynch) – (7-8-3) – (1 NC)


        42. Jimmy Darcy 8 (?) (Flowers, Berlenbach, Greb, Delaney, Stribling, Dempsey(?), Loughran, TGibbons) – (0-11-0)

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        • #14
          Joe Lohman or Joe Grim it is then going by that list, only ones I can see who lost too 9.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by NChristo View Post
            Joe Lohman or Joe Grim it is then going by that list, only ones I can see who lost too 9.


            List of Non-HOFers, who have fought 8 HOFers or more – Blue=Wins, Red=Draws (Counting Newspaper Decisions)

            Frankie Wallace actually lost to 10 IBHOF'ers

            Frankie Wallace 10
            (Miller, Ambers, Chocolate, Bass, Arizmendi, Canzoneri, Montanez, Berg, Montgomery, Robinson) – (2-17-2)

            He also lost to Miller and Arizmendi
            Last edited by hhascup; 04-28-2012, 01:03 PM.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by hhascup View Post

              List of Non-HOFers, who have fought 8 HOFers or more – Blue=Wins, Red=Draws (Counting Newspaper Decisions)

              Frankie Wallace actually lost to 10 IBHOF'ers

              Frankie Wallace 10
              (Miller, Ambers, Chocolate, Bass, Arizmendi, Canzoneri, Montanez, Berg, Montgomery, Robinson) – (2-17-2)

              He also lost to Miller and Arizmendi
              So perhaps it is Frankie Wallace. Cheers Henry, brilliant input as usual

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              • #17
                Oakland Billy Smith;

                Archie Moore x3
                Charley Burley x2
                Ezzard Charles
                Bert Lytell
                Jimmy Bivins
                Jack Chase
                Last edited by IronDanHamza; 04-28-2012, 03:45 PM.

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                • #18
                  Soldier Bartfield fought the most fights against world champions (41). If I counted right, he lost to 11 different World Champions. His record against 12 World Champions was 8-28-5

                  Soldier Bartfield and Jack Dillon both fought 10 IBHOF'ers in 1 year.

                  Jack Thompson had 56 fights and 28 of them were against IBHOF'ers.
                  Last edited by hhascup; 04-28-2012, 05:06 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Ricardo Mayorga

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                    • #20
                      Suprised a few greats weren't mentioned

                      Archie Moore lost to
                      Ezzard Charles
                      Charley Burley
                      Harold Johnson
                      Rocky Marciano
                      Floyd Patterson
                      Muhammad Ali

                      Emile Griffith lost to
                      Denny Moyer
                      Benny Kid Paret
                      Luis Rodriguez
                      Rubin Carter
                      Don Fullmer
                      Nino Benvenuti
                      Jose Napoles
                      Carlos Monzon
                      Vito Antuofermo
                      Alan Minter

                      I know all the fighters are not great but the ones that might not be are well known

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