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Old 10-08-2018, 03:37 PM #51
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Fight shouldn't be happening. Fury shouldn't be ranked by the WBC if he's not in their program.

Shocked by this to be honest.
Nobody should be shocked by anything involving the WBC.
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:47 PM #52
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No doubt UKAD will be the testing body Fury want to use, and we all know why. I mean seriously how is he able to fight Piantea to be able to be ranked in the top 15 without being tested, the guy flagged dirty three years ago and hes allowed to face Pianeta without stringent testing.

The WBC absolutely must stand by Wilder and uphold their decision to remove the WBC belt if he continues to refuse VADA testing.
UKAD are the only testing agency who have ever accused Fury of using PEDs and the only ones who might have a vested interest in catching him out for this fight.
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:47 PM #53
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Most of these UK fighters are on PED's
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:00 PM #54
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Everybody needs to calm down. Sulaiman didn't say Fury was not being tested, he said he wasn't enrolled to the year round program. Either way the fight will still go on, it just won't be sanctioned, which will take some of the luster away but it's still the same fight.

The year round testing is for the top 15 WBC ranked fighters in every division, however fighters have 90 days from the day they are ranked to sign up. And the paper work angle does seem like a somewhat legitimate excuse, because fighters have to take a webinar that includes going over the paper work (among other things) needed to enroll. Generally if instructions of how to fill out paper work needs to be on a webinar, then we can assume it's a pretty lengthy process.

The WBC voted to slot Fury at #7 in the first week of July, since rankings update every month, we could assume his ranking most likely took effect August 1st, which puts his 90 day window over at the end of this month. That's likely the reason Sulaiman is pressing right now.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:04 PM #55
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Everybody sems to be missing something here. Fury is enrolled on UKAD's anytime/anywhere program, which is exactly the same as the WBC CBP.

Neither Fury nor Wilder have yet enrolled with VADA's advanced prefight testing protocol. So they are on the level with the testing, as a matter of fact.

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"Goodman also said that there has been no request made yet from fight organizers for a specialized testing protocol that goes beyond the somewhat limited scope of the WBC's Clean Boxing Program.

Wilder has been a strong advocate for a testing program specific to each of his fights. But Goodman said, "VADA has not been contacted to conduct testing (beyond the WBC Clean Boxing Program) leading up to this upcoming fight."

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Old 10-08-2018, 04:05 PM #56
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Fight shouldn't be happening. Fury shouldn't be ranked by the WBC if he's not in their program.

Shocked by this to be honest.
Once a fighter is ranked with the WBC, that fighter has a 90 day window to enroll in the year round testing program. Fury's 90 days ends in November. Either way, Fury not enrolling doesn't stop the fight from happening, it just stops the WBC from sanctioning, which means if Wilder were to lose he'd retain the belt, and it would not be counted as a voluntary defense.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:14 PM #57
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Everybody sems to be missing something here. Fury is enrolled on UKAD's anytime/anywhere program, which is exactly the same as the WBC CBP.

Neither Fury nor Wilder have yet enrolled with VADA's advanced prefight testing protocol. So they are on the level with the testing, as a matter of fact.

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"Goodman also said that there has been no request made yet from fight organizers for a specialized testing protocol that goes beyond the somewhat limited scope of the WBC's Clean Boxing Program.

Wilder has been a strong advocate for a testing program specific to each of his fights. But Goodman said, "VADA has not been contacted to conduct testing (beyond the WBC Clean Boxing Program) leading up to this upcoming fight."
First let me say that I agree, people are acting as if Fury is not being tested, when that is not what Sulaiman said.

Neither fighter is required to enroll in advance testing, however they are both required to enroll in the VADA year round testing if they are WBC champ, or ranked in the top 15. So, it doesn't really matter where, or what Fury is currently enrolled in, he has to get that paperwork in and get this fight sanctioned. The WBC title on the line makes this fight bigger, and with out it, some of the luster is lost.

Unless you were making a point that Fury is being tested on par with Wilder so stop overreacting as if he's not, then I guess disregard my post, lol.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:17 PM #58
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Lol @ "struggling with paperwork". Great excuse.
My thoughts exactly!
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WBC not on top of things. Oh the shock.
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