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Why do posters keep trying to throw someone else in with Wilder??
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View PostFury is the lineal champion, you can’t be stripped the lineal championship, he was stripped of the ring belt. The only way he would not be lineal is by retiring, and then it would go to whoever becomes undisputed.
But Wlad never became Lineal champ By beating Lewis, Lewis retired as lineal champ, but Wlad also didn’t become undisputed because he wouldn’t fight his brother. So wlad became lineal by beating the #2 HW after Vitali retired
Everyone here can agree that some posters here know their stuff when it comes to the sport. Irondanhamza is one. Here is a direct quote of his:
It's the man who beat the man. Which of course traces back for many years.
If the Lineage is vacant, it can be re-determined by the universal #1 Vs. the universal #2.
The "Lineage" is often open to interpretation, as far as I'm aware the "Ring Title" is their interpretation of "The man" and the "Lineal Champion".
But, other's people may differ to there's I.e Mosley's WW Lineage in 09-10. Many considered him the Lineal Champion whereas The Ring and other's felt he wasn't.
So, it does get confusing at times.
That's how I look at it anyway and always have.
Also, link to the quote: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=542386
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Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Postglad you were there to fill us in on the negotiation.
Hearns father met Finkel, Hearn contacted Finkel and said they were going to put together some numbers, Wilder said 50/50 or no fight which killed the negotiations.Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 03-25-2018, 06:12 PM.
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Originally posted by krazyn8tive View PostFury was stripped of his last title and has been inactive for two years. It is vacated therefore no "lineage" can be maintained. However, those two fighters widely regarded as the #1 and #2 can fight each other in that weight division to become "the man" and establish a new lineal champion.
Everyone here can agree that some posters here know their stuff when it comes to the sport. Irondanhamza is one. Here is a direct quote of his:
It's the man who beat the man. Which of course traces back for many years.
If the Lineage is vacant, it can be re-determined by the universal #1 Vs. the universal #2.
The "Lineage" is often open to interpretation, as far as I'm aware the "Ring Title" is their interpretation of "The man" and the "Lineal Champion".
But, other's people may differ to there's I.e Mosley's WW Lineage in 09-10. Many considered him the Lineal Champion whereas The Ring and other's felt he wasn't.
So, it does get confusing at times.
That's how I look at it anyway and always have.
Also, link to the quote: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=542386
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