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View Poll Results: Who wins?
George Groves by T/KO 27 17.88%
George Groves by Decision 67 44.37%
Chris Eubank Jr by T/KO 31 20.53%
Chris Eubank Jr by Decision 19 12.58%
Draw/Too close to call 7 4.64%
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Old 02-12-2018, 12:24 PM #1
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George Groves on how the lessons of his Carl Froch super-fights will ensure he defeats Chris Eubank Jr

This Saturday George Groves returns to the Manchester Arena, where his saga with Froch began. A veteran now, against Eubank Jr, Groves believes he is holding all the cards

THIS week George Groves, the WBA super-middleweight champion, returns to the Manchester Arena, for the first time since his thrilling 2013 clash with Carl Froch. That was the first occasion Groves challenged Froch. Then he was a hefty underdog but Groves shot out of the traps in the opening round and in a stunning moment dropped iron-chinned Froch. Famously Froch recovered and came on strong in the later rounds only to see the referee pull out Groves and fuel a controversy that ultimately led to their monumental rematch at Wembley stadium.

ďReally [trainer Paddy] Fitzpatrick and me got the tactics wrong. I had him up against the ropes in the first fight, I should have jumped straight on him and gone straight from there. I got it wrong. It happens, whatever. Iím in a good place now. It doesnít keep me up at night. Iíve achieved my dream and now Iím just trying to capitalise on that,Ē Groves noted.

In fact, yet again, he has another super-fight on his hands. On Saturday (February 17) Groves fights Chris Eubank Junior at the Manchester Arena, defending his world title and fighting for a place in the final of the World Boxing Super Series.

Groves is adamant that his experiences with Froch have prepared him in ways that Eubank is yet to learn. ďFor the second Froch fight my mindset was: ĎIím going to make this so big that once I win I donít need anyoneí. I donít need to be invited to the Matchroom pool party, Iím going to be so big that Iím going to be able to have that element of control. Iím going to try to promote it as best I possibly could. It was a tightrope because the more promotion you do, the more risk you have alienating the fans. But win emphatically and people quickly forget. But get knocked out, you have a massive fall from grace and there is a massive task at hand to rebuild. I got knocked out. So Iím not necessarily the most PC guy and Iím not cheesy, I could never sustain being fake. I had to not just take it on the chin on the night, I had to take it on the chin after and rebuild properly with fights. Iíd say I still think I can beat Carl Froch. I knew that would be the worst thing to say commercially. But I couldnít eat that humble pie and be cheesy,Ē Groves said.

ďIím glad I learned my lessons.Ē

The Londoner believes Eubank is making the kind of errors he once committed. ďI definitely looked beyond the Froch rematch. Not because I thought it was a foregone conclusion of winning but I was supremely confident I was going to do the job. Iíd done too much PR in the process, which was very taxing, then come fight night, Iíd obviously got it wrong. I should have made some more changes. There were rushed changes before the first because I needed a trainer. For the second fight, I probably should have brought in someone else as well. But it was a whirlwind thing. Which way do I get my rematch? We went through the IBF, got that and then because of that I was too busy trying to negotiate my purse, then promote it. It was really exciting, because I felt like it was all clicking for me. But at the same time, it was draining, it was taxing. Different obviously for Eubank this time round [but] I feel he wants to do that,Ē Groves said. ďI think Junior might be looking beyond this fight. Like I did.Ē

ďItís a tough test. I believe Iím the best super-middleweight in the world right now. Certainly one of them. A legitimate world champion. He hasnít boxed anyone as big, as fast, as good as me before. Probably the best opposition heís been in against is [Billy Joe] Saunders, which was a good few years ago now, at domestic level. And Saunders has now really improved, obviously in the last fight. So fortunately for Eubank, his stockís risen because Saunders has risen. (And itís middleweight),Ē George continued.

He adds, ďHe hasnít filled out into the super-middleweight division yet. He might do one day. But he certainly has it done it yet, thatís going to be a big, big factor.Ē

But Groves believes Eubank hadnít even learned the right lessons from his loss to Saunders. ďI thought Billy Joe would beat him more convincingly than he did. He obviously finished the fight stronger and it was a close decision,Ē Groves explained. ďHe [Eubank] decided to fully focus on fitness and being able to fight every second of every round. His dad probably critiqued him pretty hard after that. After you lose you think I need to listen to people because Iíve got it wrong. But since then heís been exceptionally well matched. His little path, is it right? Is it wrong? Itís hard to tell. Youíll never know. Would he be commercially bigger if heíd signed in with a big promoter and let them do the job? Or would he not? If this tournament wasnít here now where would he be? Heíd be defending an IBO on ITV against unknown for no money. Donít listen to the dad when the dad says heís earned millions. Of course he hasnít. You only need to count the pay-per-view numbers, count the ticket sales, how many were given away and how much it costs etc. etc. I just think that yeah theyíve done very well, whether they intended to or not in terms of commercially building his brand but they havenít had the tests in terms of the fights to back up where he is commercially. Now heís having to make that giant bridging step and itís a step too far.Ē

ďBut youíve got to win some fights first, do you know what I mean?Ē Groves cautioned. ďAttach yourself to big names and not have a real fight [until now]. Obviously the big difference here, heís in a fight.Ē

Groves thinks the footage theyíve released publicly speaks volumes, to the Eubank teamís detriment. ďThe dad jumps in. Itís the blind leading the blind. But I suppose there are people out there that think, thatís just brilliant. Thatís how youíve got to do it. They must know what theyíre doing. In reality I donít think they do,Ē Groves declared.

ďAs the fightís getting a bit closer, many more people are seeing through it.Ē

No doubt has emerged yet from the Eubank camp though. The final say will take place on Saturday night.
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I’m surprised at the betting, Eubank is the clear favourite. I’d say it’s a real 50/50 fight where we’ll find out just how good Eubank is (or isn’t).
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:16 AM #8
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I'm surprised at the odds making Eubank favorite.

I'll bet on Groves now.

Whatever happens on Saturday I'm sure there will be drama.
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Groves DISSED Eubank Jr today in The Daily Mirror pretty hard lol.

I'm buzzing for this fight.
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I'm surprised at the odds for this fight. You can put question marks on both of these fighters but i'm still surprised.

Groves is bigger and stronger. He has a higher proven quality. He has beaten the better guys. Had some good wins, close losses against good guys and is now at his highest success and possibly confidence being the world champ. Granted he had those 2 loses to Froch.

Eubank is faster, better cardio, but he is much smaller, hasn't really beaten anyone of merit. Has only had 1 fight of merit, which he lost to an out of shape/desire BJS, granted it was a while ago. He achieved nothing at MW, and thus far hasn't proven anything at SMW. I'll give him some credit for beating Abraham, but let's be honest, he is ancient and loses almost every time he fights a top guy. I expected him to be able to outpoint him. The KO against Yildrim was a nice KO, but Yildrim is European level. It seems since that KO though, the UK at least has gone a little bit hype crazy on Eubank.

All the bookies have him, most polls have him, and most expert picks i've seen have him.
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