how come wade is a joke win but lubin and williams are great wins for the charlos?

[RussB23]

Wade was on house arrest and only sparred little kids at the ymca in preparation for golovkin

lol i remember the clips of the pre fight dude literally had an ankle brace on

[Larry the boss]

who said they are "GREAT"wins?..thing is neither Charlo is on anyones p4p list..Golovkin was on p4p lists fighting ****ing Wade for crying out loud

[koolkc107]

Well, I personally don't think there was anything great about the Charlos beating Lubin and Williams.

I did expect it.

But those are good wins nonetheless for up and coming fighters just beginning their dominance, if indeed that is what it turns out to be.

On the other hand, even without any ankle bracelet smack, Wade was a joke.

Dude went life and death with a 40 year old, one nobody has ever thought was special.

That's why folks were scratching their heads then.

And that's why the Charlos get more props for what they did...they deserve more props.

BTW, 2016 has to be the most STAYPUFF schedule of any middleweight champion in history.

First you fight a guy no one thinks is special coming of a split decision with a geriatric fighter...AND SOME THINK WADE LOST THAT FIGHT!!!!

Then you fight a welterweight.

No wonder some think 2017 exposed him...

[Larry the boss]

Well, I personally don't think there was anything great about the Charlos beating Lubin and Williams.

I did expect it.

But those are good wins nonetheless for up and coming fighters just beginning their dominance, if indeed that is what it turns out to be.

On the other hand, even without any ankle bracelet smack, Wade was a joke.

Dude went life and death with a 40 year old, one nobody has ever thought was special.

That's why folks were scratching their heads then.

And that's why the Charlos get more props for what they did...they deserve more props.

BTW, 2016 has to be the most STAYPUFF schedule of any middleweight champion in history.

First you fight a guy no one thinks is special coming of a split decision with a geriatric fighter...AND SOME THINK WADE LOST THAT FIGHT!!!!

Then you fight a welterweight.

No wonder some think 2017 exposed him...

pretty much, he has has 2 subpar years and somehow is p4p#2

[jas]

because wade went down from a shoulder shot

[The Hammer]

Erickson Lubin was one of the best amateurs in the U.S. and favored to win a medal in the Rio Olympics had he not turned pro.

Dominic Wade was some guy on house arrest who was literally wearing an ankle monitor during training camp for the Golovkin fight.

Let's be honest here: if Gennady Golovkin was Lamont Jones from Philadelphia and had exactly the same performances and record, would you like him better?

[koolkc107]

pretty much, he has has 2 subpar years and somehow is p4p#2

That's a good point.

2016 was a wasted year that did zero for his legacy.

And 2017, you could make strong arguments for him losing both fights.

Truth is Golovkin is kinda fortunate to still be undefeated.

And no, I don't have him in my Top 5 P4P.

[ShoulderRoll]

Let's be honest here: if Gennady Golovkin was Lamont Jones from Philadelphia and had exactly the same performances and record, would you like him better?

Lubin was a top American amateur. Dominic Wade was some guy who was on house arrest when training for the Golovkin fight.

Why do the cold, hard facts seem to bother you so?

[rickJen]

They are reduced to clowns, these Haymon fighters.
Top fighters won't fight each other.
Here they are pretending they all want Glovkin.
Then fight the less threatening opponents in the interim.

[Raggamuffin]

wade, lubin, williams. 3 american fighters who were all unbeaten but had not beaten a decent name between them. All got knocked out early when they stepped up in class. yet wade is a joke win on here, supposed evidence of golovkins weak opposition. But yet williams and lubin who had fought and beat absolutely noone on world level, are fantastic wins that elevate the charlos standing in the sport . The boxingscene writers even said it reminded them of tyson v spinks. Whats the difference? why is it when the charlos beat fighters with no good wins, its an amazing achievement. But these same posters then trash golovkin when he beat someone who hadnt beat anyone of note?

Stop making up agendas. Foh with your ******ed logic. You don't even make sense.