Your Top 15 All-Time P4P

[TAC602]

The ever shuffling, always debatable...

The only locks I have for certain are 1-3.

01. Harry Greb
02. Sam Langford
03. Ray Robinson
04. Ezzard Charles
05. Henry Armstrong
06. Roberto Duran
07. Benny Leonard
08. Ray Leonard
09. Bob Fitzsimmons
10. Muhammad Ali
11. Joe Gans
12. Archie Moore
13. Willie Pep
14. Mickey Walker
15. Joe Louis

How about you guys?

[DaveJH]

1 - Sugar Ray Robindon
2 - Joe Louis
3 - Roy Jones Jr.
4 - Sugar Ray Leonard
5 - Floyd Mayweather
6 - Manny Pacquiao
7 - Bernard Hopkins
8 - Roberto Duran
9 - Marvin Hagler
10 - Pernell Whitaker
11 - Julio Caesar Chavez
12 - Carlos Monzon
13 - Joe Frazier
14 - Mike Tyson
15 - Rocky Marciano (in reality he should be up around 3rd but I completely forgot about him and can't be bothered to go and change my numbers.)

No Ali as I simply despise the man.

[SaintGeorge]

1. SRR
2. Ali
3. SRL
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Floyd Mayweather
6. Ted Kid Lewis
7. Pernell Whittaker
8. Joe Louis
9. Julio Cesar Chavez
10. Roy Jones JR
11. Carlos Monzon
12. Tommy Hearns
13. Roberto Duran
14. Joe Calazaghe
15. Mike Tyson

[Barn]

Modern fighters only

1.Roy Jones Jr
2.Muhammad Ali

3.Sugar Ray Leonard
4.Carlos Monzon
5.Julio Cesar Chavez

6.Roberto Duran




7.George Foreman
8.Bernard Hopkins
9.Marco Antonio Barrera
10.Mike McCallum
11.Manny Pacquiao




12.Evander Holyfield
13.Aaron Pryor
14.Salvador Sanchez






15.Humberto Gonzalez

Is H2H a large factor?

[Barn]

1 - Sugar Ray Robindon
2 - Joe Louis
3 - Roy Jones Jr.
4 - Sugar Ray Leonard
5 - Floyd Mayweather
6 - Manny Pacquiao
7 - Bernard Hopkins
8 - Roberto Duran
9 - Marvin Hagler
10 - Pernell Whitaker
11 - Julio Caesar Chavez
12 - Carlos Monzon
13 - Joe Frazier
14 - Mike Tyson
15 - Rocky Marciano (in reality he should be up around 3rd but I completely forgot about him and can't be bothered to go and change my numbers.)

No Ali as I simply despise the man.

Is H2H a large factor?

Also, you can't ommit a man just because you hate him, that's a bit off. I don't like Ali but, I understand he could be a great man and fighter.

[Barn]

The ever shuffling, always debatable...

The only locks I have for certain are 1-3.

01. Harry Greb
02. Sam Langford
03. Ray Robinson
04. Ezzard Charles
05. Henry Armstrong
06. Roberto Duran
07. Benny Leonard
08. Ray Leonard
09. Bob Fitzsimmons
10. Muhammad Ali
11. Joe Gans
12. Archie Moore
13. Willie Pep
14. Mickey Walker
15. Joe Louis

How about you guys?

Also @TS your list is very similar to mine. Exact same top 5. I hate trying to split Greb, Langford and Robinson though so just have them joint first.

[SBleeder]

Good grief at some of these. Tyson? Marciano? Calzaghe?

Here's mine:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Willie Pep
6. Ezzard Charles
7. Sam Langford
8. Joe Gans
9. Benny Leonard
10. Archie Moore
11. Joe Louis
12. Carlos Monzon
13. Roberto Duran
14. Eder Jofre
15. Pernell Whitaker

[Vadrigar.]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Roberto Duran
5. Sugar Ray Leonard
6. Joe Louis
7. Marvin Hagler
8. Pernell Whitaker
9. Roy Jones jr
10. Thomas Hearns

[Scott9945]

Good grief at some of these. Tyson? Marciano? Calzaghe?

Here's mine:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Willie Pep
6. Ezzard Charles
7. Sam Langford
8. Joe Gans
9. Benny Leonard
10. Archie Moore
11. Joe Louis
12. Carlos Monzon
13. Roberto Duran
14. Eder Jofre
15. Pernell Whitaker

Very good list here.

[TAC602]

Good grief at some of these. Tyson? Marciano? Calzaghe?

Here's mine:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Harry Greb
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Willie Pep
6. Ezzard Charles
7. Sam Langford
8. Joe Gans
9. Benny Leonard
10. Archie Moore
11. Joe Louis
12. Carlos Monzon
13. Roberto Duran
14. Eder Jofre
15. Pernell Whitaker

I should probably edit mine to make room for Escopeta.

CARLOS MONZON
11/70: Nino Benvenuti (Champion)
05/71: Nino Benvenuti (#1)
09/71: Emile Griffith (#2)
03/72: Denny Moyer (#3)
06/72: Jean ClaudeBouttier (#4)
08/72: Tom Bogs (N/A)
11/72: Bennie Briscoe (#3)
06/73: Emile Griffith (#1)
09/73: Jean Claude Bouttier (#4)
02/74: Jose Napoles (147 Champion)
10/74: Tony Mundine (#1)
06/75: Tony Licata (#2)
12/75: Grattien Tonna (#4)
06/76: Rodrigo Valdez (#1)
07/77: Rodrigo Valdez (#2)

Quite an outstanding body of work as reigning 160 Champion. The WBC was ridiculous for stripping him of his title. Although nobody really gives a **** about the WBC. Monzon was the only Champion and took on the best opposition available to him.