if Pac beats Mayweather and retires, is he automatically on the top 5 GOAT list?

[Bhopreign]

remember what manny steward was saying on the pac/cotto broadcast, how pac is up there with the ray robinson's and ali's...as of right now, i don't think so, but if he was to beat mayweather and retire for good, would anyone put Pacquiao above those two on their lists?

Nowhere near it.

[h2k]

pac was already on my top 5 now

[andrtaker]

So many excuses... He is weight drained, past prime, not skilled, worn out, etc... Pfft pretty obvious your only trying hard to down rank other people's achievements because of jealousy. Do something special in your life. Its pretty sad that today's boxing is nothing but full of excuses and criticism from the fans of boxing.

Though i have to say that pacquiao could easily be at the top 10, but at top 5? Maybe if he fought 1-2 more top quality opponent in the WW division (mosley or maybe fight paul williams) then maybe he could get there. My opinion

[dde91]

Based on MEDIA BULL**** HYPE:::Hell yes
Based on Legit Resume:::: Not even close to an ATG STATUS let alone top 5.

Barrera 1-PAST PRIME
Morales1-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED-Erik DESTROYED Manny
Morales2-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Morales3-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Jmm-1 -Jmm Beat the crap out of Pacroid..
Jmm-2 PAST PRIME – Marquez beat up manny…AGAIN lmfao
Barrera2-PAST PRIME
Diaz-Got a gift decision against a SHOT Morales..
Delahoya- PASTPRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Hatton- PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Cotto-PASTPRIME? WEIGHT DRAINED..

THIS FOLKS is a REAL RESUME..Erik Morales:

Juan Carlos Ramirez..TKO12
Fernando Velardez..TKO5
Jose Luis Bueno..KO2
Kevin Kelly..TKO7
Guty EspadasX.. KO3
Wayne McCullough..UD12
Carlos Hernandez..UD2
In Jin Chi..UD12
Junior Jones..TKO4
Jesus Chavez..UD12
Daniel Zaragoza..KO11[39yrs]
Paulie Ayala..KO11
Marco Barrera..SD12
Manny Pacquiao..12 round ass kicking
David Diaz???[gift decision..?]

Mayweather

De La Hoya-OLD
Gatti-Past Prime Old
Judah-OVERRATED
Baldimor-JOurneymen
Castillo-LOST 1st FIGHT
Corrales-WEIGHT DRAIN
JMM-OLD, PAST PRIME, 2 FAT
Hatton-not at his best weight

[horge]

his career will only be truly assessed when he retires. but no, i don't think so.

I think the very premise of the thread was that he'd retired,
after victory over PBF.

IMO he'd remain top 15, since PBF doesn't hold a belt.
Frankly, a win over Shane/Berto would be more significant,
since it practically unifies WW, and stakes claim to lineal.

[SkillspayBills]

Top 10. You could make the argument for top 5. Depends how he wins as well.

[Pacdbest]

remember what manny steward was saying on the pac/cotto broadcast, how pac is up there with the ray robinson's and ali's...as of right now, i don't think so, but if he was to beat mayweather and retire for good, would anyone put Pacquiao above those two on their lists?

I'll take the word from Steward, Merchant & Bert Sugar anytime rather than any fan like you in the net anytime. Your vote doesn't anyways. But if you ask me, Pac was already there at the top 10 after the DLH fight. He was already at my top 5 after Hatton & just entered my top 3 After Cotto. He beat PBF & he will be my GOAT!!!

[Owlzfan84]

Mayweather

De La Hoya-OLD
Gatti-Past Prime Old
Judah-OVERRATED
Baldimor-JOurneymen
Castillo-LOST 1st FIGHT
Corrales-WEIGHT DRAIN
JMM-OLD, PAST PRIME, 2 FAT
Hatton-not at his best weight

thankyou. Honestly you could pick apart anybody's resume and make it sound bad.

[Castor_Troy]

remember what manny steward was saying on the pac/cotto broadcast, how pac is up there with the ray robinson's and ali's...as of right now, i don't think so, but if he was to beat mayweather and retire for good, would anyone put Pacquiao above those two on their lists?

TOP 5 AT LEAST if he beats Floyd

[bigdognyc]

First of all, Floyd is wayyyy overrated so a win for Pac wouldnt move him that much higher where he is presently...