Pac is the cleanest boxer today. No PED user can fight at the age of 40 and above at the elite level. If canelo can fight until the age of 40 then i will think that pac is also a dirty boxer.
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I was very naive and I was one of the biggest defenders of Armstrong .As someone said " we won't be fooled again .Most do in most sports and the dumbest athlete is very bright when looking for that edge. Mexican meat epo, medicine for a condition. Too much money not to look for an edge. There will be more. Many more.
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Originally posted by Kirk087 View PostI was very naive and I was one of the biggest defenders of Armstrong .As someone said " we won't be fooled again .Most do in most sports and the dumbest athlete is very bright when looking for that edge. Mexican meat epo, medicine for a condition. Too much money not to look for an edge. There will be more. Many more.
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Originally posted by JuniorTorres720 View PostAppreciate the insight man. I didn’t want to compare human fighters with dog fighting, I was just trying to see if it was the same concept even though humans are obviously voluntarily fighting while dogs aren’t.
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Originally posted by thesmokingman View PostYou are all over the place with huge amounts of BS. BJ Penn did notify the UFC and he was banned for it.
Originally posted by thesmokingman View PostMayweather PAID USADA directly. Never mind the fact that USADA doesn't have ANY authority to issue a TUE much less a retroactive TUE for IV use. And even in the case of an approved TUE, say hypothetically, it could not be over the 50ml/hr limit imposed on all IV use. Mayweather was using IV way over the limit.
And I also didn't hear anyone complaining about USADA when Pacquiao was considering using them for the Rios fight, but that's another story I suppose.
But as for your false statements above:
1. Of course USADA has authority to issue a retroactive TUE. The ONLY reason that Mayweather needed a TUE is because of WADA's rules. If USADA wasn't bound by WADA's rules, there would be no need for the TUE point blank period. And a retroactive TUE has been a standard part of the WADA protocol far before this fight.
Did De La Hoya need a TUE for his IV use against Pac? Hmmm.
2. And you are WAY OFF about an approved IV needing to be 50ml or less. And you wanted to tell me I don't know about this???? You don't need a TUE if the IV for saline is 50ml or below. If you have a TUE approved by USADA, then you are allowed to go above 50ml.
By the way, do you know what 50ml looks like???? I'm not sure what the hell you can cure with 50ml of saline solution. Like I mentioned, 750ml is less than what you would get in a standard IV bag. Usually a person is given at least 1000ml.
Originally posted by thesmokingman View PostYou ask why would someone use an IV the night before? To even ask this you are either dumb as rocks or trolling. You should ask Lance what IV's are used for, smh.
What was the IV for? Rehydration, right? Come on. Let's see if you can put this together. When you do, you'll see who is dumb as rocks.
Originally posted by thesmokingman View PostAnd stop using USADA's BS rebuttal to the Hauser article. Lmao, who believes USADA is legit? Like they couldn't take their time writing up that fiction.
1. The independent lab will send all test results to WADA. Exactly what I said and Exactly what was proven.
2. USADA does indeed contact the athletic commissions. We know that they contacted the NSAC in Mayweather/Pacquiao's case. They also contacted NYSAC regarding Morales. So sorry, I don't need to rely on USADA's statement, which by the way is much better than Hauser's statement since Hauser apparently can't even do highschool math and got tore a new arsehole by USADA.
Still doesn't change the fact that you haven't even dared to tell me how your little conspiracy theory would work. I'm still waiting for that laugh.
Originally posted by thesmokingman View PostYou are googling **** to support cheaters, christ almighty, give it a rest.
You are telling complete lies, claiming that you know what you are talking about when you've been proven to not know shlt about this, and making claims based on ABSOLUTELY NOTHING while I have give you FACTS.
Here they are again in case you are confused.
Fact 1: The WADA labs send ALL test results to WADA. So how the hell is USADA hiding positive results? Do you hide things from your boss and the rest of the word by.....telling your boss (WADA) about it. Makes sense to you?
Fact 2: USADA does inform state commissions about testing.
Fact 3: A spokesperson from WADA said that a retro TUE for IV rehydration would be allowed according to WADA's rules.
Fact 4: An IV could mask a urine test by dilution. All urine samples are checked for dilution by USADA's doping control officer (who is REQUIRED to get an UNDILUTED sample), and then the sample is sent to the independent lab, that also checks the sample to ensure it is not diluted.
If you'd like to say any of the above facts are false, then let's discuss and see who is right.
So yea, I think YOU should give it a rest when you've come with absolutely nothing, came trying to attack me but instead found out everything I said was accurate and then you dropped it and went with the old...."but but but...I know he's cheating...I just have no proof except that the promoter paid for the testing like promoters always do." When you get some solid evidence and explain how this conspiracy theory makes any gottdamn sense at all, you let me know.
Because anyone with a damn brain knows that if you help someone cheat with an undetectable substance (saline solution), you don't need to make a damn paper trail of what you did illegal. That's moronic...but those of you who believe in these type of fairytales simply aren't very bright.Last edited by travestyny; 06-25-2019, 01:27 AM.
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Originally posted by Boxing Scene View PostActually don't speak for everyone. You have no ****ing idea what you're talking about.
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Originally posted by thesmokingman View PostIronically, the guys purporting to be cleaning up the sport are the biggest dopers. Did you know Lance paid 150K to the UCI for some blood testing machines back in the day? It was a big thing he was helping to usher in the new anti-doping equipment cuz he is clean. The irony is that the 150K was payment, er donation () for his retro-active TUE for saddle sore.
Yet we have those of you that believe they helped the hated Mayweather to cheat with no damn proof. Come on, buddy. Still waiting for you to make sense of that conspiracy theory of yours.
Tell me. Why would USADA go the TUE route leaving everything on file and with WADA when saline solution is undetectable?
And how does USADA hide positive tests by having the independent lab send positive test results to WADA???
Are you ready to give some answers, because I'm ready to laugh.Last edited by travestyny; 06-25-2019, 01:36 AM.
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Originally posted by Spoon23 View PostYou just ICED TravestyNY. That's a ******ed poster who thinks he is above WADA.
Just like I've been doing to you for years before you put me on ignore, pvssy.
Guess you were afraid that I would send you on a permanent vacation like I did to your boy, ADP02. Isn't that right, SpoonLast edited by travestyny; 06-25-2019, 01:21 AM.
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