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  • #21
    Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
    Oscar owns the ring and he promotes Canelo. It's as simple as that. Exactly which elite fighter 160 pounds or less beats GGG? If the only way you think you can get GGG beat is by using fighters from higher weight classes than 160 that makes GGG an elite fighter himself. Jacobs is a world champion with a 12 KO win streak. He KOed Quillen in 1 round and twice KOed Mora. Neither Quillen nor Mora had ever been KOed before. Why is Jacobs not elite?
    Because of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ8ntFFlC9U

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
      Yes.

      The concept of a lineal champion was developed by boxing fans dissatisfied by the tendency of each of the various sanctioning bodies (WBC, WBA, IBF, etc.) to recognize different champions, and in particular to strip a champion of his title for refusing to fight its top-ranked contender.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineal...ionship#Boxing

      Stripping Canelo would go against why it was created. Silly Golovtards.
      Like the other guy questioned/suggested, and I stated, you don't know what you're talking about. Lineal is a CONCEPT. There originally was no belt for it because it wasn't needed, it wasn't necessary. The Ring these days has even LESS credibility than the alphabet soup/ABC orgs, which is what this thread is about, son.

      Here's what The Ring's Championship Policy (lineal) also states...

      Championship vacancies can be filled in the following two ways:

      1. THE RING’s Nos. 1 and 2 contenders fight one another.
      2. If the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders chose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded THE RING belt if the Editorial Board deems the contenders worthy.
      So, if there's a vacancy to be filled AND both the #1 & #2 rated fighters refuse to fight each other, THEN they allow the #1 OR the #2 rated fighter to fight up to the #5 rated fighter and the winner "may" be awarded their "lineal" title if "deemed worthy" by their board. What a joke. This is who you're backing! Linares, for example, did just that and fought their #3 guy to become their "lineal" champ.

      Good day. I'm done embarrassing you for tonight.
      Last edited by Pugilisticuffs; 02-27-2017, 01:26 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
        Yes.

        The concept of a lineal champion was developed by boxing fans dissatisfied by the tendency of each of the various sanctioning bodies (WBC, WBA, IBF, etc.) to recognize different champions, and in particular to strip a champion of his title for refusing to fight its top-ranked contender. Prior to the 1970s, this rarely happened; the National Boxing Association (NBA) and the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC) sometimes recognized different champions, but there was usually only a short interval before one champion defeated the other. In this era, a title vacancy was generally filled by having a single-elimination tournament box-off between two or more top-ranked contenders. The lineal championship is intended as a return to that era. Several top boxers have specified holding the lineal championship as a personal accomplishment (e.g. Lennox Lewis[3]) or goal (e.g., Nate Campbell[1]).

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineal...ionship#Boxing

        Stripping Canelo would go against why it was created. Silly Golovtards.
        No it wouldn't, it wasn't designed to honor such awful ducking champs. He should have been stripped when he forfeited his Wbc belt to #1 contender and unified people's champ, with the "body not ready" excuse.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by lparm View Post
          I'm not the biggest fan of ggg and personally I think he's destroyed by the first elite fighter he faces but I give him credit for cleaning out the 160lbs division. With that said how the fucl can the ring magazine the supposed "bible of boxing" keep canelo as their mw champ? He flat out ran from a fight with ggg and now is exclusive at 154lbs. The hypocrisy of the ring is incredible and they cannot be taken seriously by any fan.
          oscar de la hoya owns rings magazine.

          oscar de la hoya is canelo's promoter.

          the ring magazine title is absolutely meaningless now.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
            Because the Ring is supposed to try and follow Lineal champions. Lineal was created because of fighters losing titles outside the ring. Stripping a fighter goes against why "Lineal" was created. No rules have been broken.
            didn't stop them from stripping adonis stevenson.

            the ring title has nothing to do with lineal anymore. ring magazine is owned by oscar de la hoya. they make up the rules as they go along. they do whatever harms haymon and whatever helps HBO.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
              No it wouldn't, it wasn't designed to honor such awful ducking champs. He should have been stripped when he forfeited his Wbc belt to #1 contender and unified people's champ, with the "body not ready" excuse.
              It was designed so fighters didn't get stripped through politics. You know how Canelo was. Canelo is lineal champ that's just a fact you and the other cry babies are just going to have to deal with. No Freebies this time for Lil G.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Pugilisticuffs View Post
                Like the other guy said, and I said, you don't know what you're talking about. Lineal is a CONCEPT. There originally was no belt for it because it wasn't needed, it wasn't necessary. The Ring these days has even LESS credibility than the alphabet soup/ABC orgs, which is what this thread is about, son.

                Here's what The Ring's Championship Policy (lineal) also states...



                So, if there's a vacancy to be filled AND both the #1 & #2 rated fighters refuse to fight each other, THEN they allow the #1 OR the #2 rated fighter to fight up to the #5 rated fighter and the winner "may" be awarded their "lineal" title if "deemed worthy" by their board. What a joke. This is who you're backing!

                Good day. I'm done embarrassing you for tonight.
                It's not the Ring this time. Of course they're biased for Canelo but most everyone else has Canelo as #1 at MW: tbrb, boxing scene, ESPN afaik. It's cause all go by the same broken rules. The ring is better sometimes, they'll warn and strip deadbeat champs but not in this case

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                  Yes.

                  The concept of a lineal champion was developed by boxing fans dissatisfied by the tendency of each of the various sanctioning bodies (WBC, WBA, IBF, etc.) to recognize different champions, and in particular to strip a champion of his title for refusing to fight its top-ranked contender. Prior to the 1970s, this rarely happened; the National Boxing Association (NBA) and the New York State Athletic Commission (NYSAC) sometimes recognized different champions, but there was usually only a short interval before one champion defeated the other. In this era, a title vacancy was generally filled by having a single-elimination tournament box-off between two or more top-ranked contenders. The lineal championship is intended as a return to that era. Several top boxers have specified holding the lineal championship as a personal accomplishment (e.g. Lennox Lewis[3]) or goal (e.g., Nate Campbell[1]).

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lineal...ionship#Boxing

                  Stripping Canelo would go against why it was created. Silly Golovtards.
                  I disagree that it was a concept developed by fans...it just simply is what it is, the champion and that concept dates back to the introduction of the Marquess of Queensbury rules. I do however agree that canelo is the current champion...not that it really means anything if he's not fighting the best contenders.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by original zero View Post
                    didn't stop them from stripping adonis stevenson.

                    the ring title has nothing to do with lineal anymore. ring magazine is owned by oscar de la hoya. they make up the rules as they go along. they do whatever harms haymon and whatever helps HBO.
                    Blah blah blah blah. So people keep saying but what rules have they changed for Canelo ******? None that's how many. Canelo is the Ring and lineal champ. It's ******s like you that want the rules changed to favour the fighter you support.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                      It was designed so fighters didn't get stripped through politics. You know how Canelo was. Canelo is lineal champ that's just a fact you and the other cry babies are just going to have to deal with. No Freebies this time for Lil G.
                      It was designed so that good champs like Sergio don't get stripped for not fighting bogus #1 contenders like Zbik cause they cant get a TV date. Not so that a bogus 155 lineal champ doesn't get stripped for saying he's too small, moves down in weight, and surrenders the belt to universal #1 contender/unified champ.

                      See the difference? In one case the champ was too good for the fight. Other, the champ is not big or good enough. How can you be MW lineal if you're not a MW? That's a minimum requirement

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