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Originally posted by davefromvancouv View PostAs it stands, Wilder, Fury and Ortiz are the only heavyweights who are actually trying to fight the best (at this stage of their careers). Like Usyk, Crawford, Mikey Garcia, Teofimo Lopez and Lomachenko in other divisions. It's fun to support these fighters, even if they lose.
The rest are either playing it safe or are solely focused on "appearing" to be the best. Like Joshua, Whyte, Spence, Thurman and Gervonta Davis. The only meaningful fights for these fighters are:
Joshua - Wilder
Joshua - Fury
Joshua - Ortiz
Whyte - Ortiz
Whyte - Braezaele
Spence - Crawford
Spence - Thurman
Spence - Porter
Thurman - Crawford
Thurman - Porter
Gervonta Davis - Lomachenko
Until then, any other matchup is frustrating and disappointing. I used to believe that Joshua was the real deal until he pulled that stunt against Wilder. Then I took a deeper look into how he maneuvered around Wilder to pick up Fury's belts. Everybody boasts about how he's only had 22 fights but nobody forced him to become a champion before he was ready. HE chose to do that. The Klitschko fight seemed to take him to another level but maybe Klitschko wasn't really all that good, because since that fight he only seems to be interested in fighting faded and second-tier fighters. I would heavily favor Wilder and Fury over Joshua at this point. Even Whyte was lowballed to cover a Joshua loss, and Whyte had a bad shoulder when he lost their first fight. Miller may actually have a shot, but I believe he was picked because, again, perception is everything.
Where was wilder when all the songs called Fury's belts were vacant? Isnt it ridiculous and funny that a champ with so called 50mil couldn't attract any unification not even against the then IBF champ that was just behind him in the state.
What is the use of his damn 50mil if he can't charge any unification match.
It's even a shame from every angle that a champ with 41 fights, almost 10 defences, champ for about 4 yrs and no unification match.
How do even defend this garbage without being a garbage yourself?
You should cover your head in shape and allow these to slide. It's for your best interest.
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Originally posted by Laligalaliga View PostDnt be a salvage. You should be smarter than this.
Where was wilder when all the songs called Fury's belts were vacant? Isnt it ridiculous and funny that a champ with so called 50mil couldn't attract any unification not even against the then IBF champ that was just behind him in the state.
What is the use of his damn 50mil if he can't charge any unification match.
It's even a shame from every angle that a champ with 41 fights, almost 10 defences, champ for about 4 yrs and no unification match.
How do even defend this garbage without being a garbage yourself?
You should cover your head in shape and allow these to slide. It's for your best interest.
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Originally posted by davefromvancouv View PostWilder was the only champion at the time and he was being avoided as a high risk opponent.
If their backers are not willing to do that then it's clear as day they don't have faith in their fighter to deliver.
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Originally posted by davefromvancouv View PostAs it stands, Wilder, Fury and Ortiz are the only heavyweights who are actually trying to fight the best (at this stage of their careers). Like Usyk, Crawford, Mikey Garcia, Teofimo Lopez and Lomachenko in other divisions. It's fun to support these fighters, even if they lose.
The rest are either playing it safe or are solely focused on "appearing" to be the best. Like Joshua, Whyte, Spence, Thurman and Gervonta Davis. The only meaningful fights for these fighters are:
Joshua - Wilder
Joshua - Fury
Joshua - Ortiz
Whyte - Ortiz
Whyte - Braezaele
Spence - Crawford
Spence - Thurman
Spence - Porter
Thurman - Crawford
Thurman - Porter
Gervonta Davis - Lomachenko
Until then, any other matchup is frustrating and disappointing. I used to believe that Joshua was the real deal until he pulled that stunt against Wilder. Then I took a deeper look into how he maneuvered around Wilder to pick up Fury's belts. Everybody boasts about how he's only had 22 fights but nobody forced him to become a champion before he was ready. HE chose to do that. The Klitschko fight seemed to take him to another level but maybe Klitschko wasn't really all that good, because since that fight he only seems to be interested in fighting faded and second-tier fighters. I would heavily favor Wilder and Fury over Joshua at this point. Even Whyte was lowballed to cover a Joshua loss, and Whyte had a bad shoulder when he lost their first fight. Miller may actually have a shot, but I believe he was picked because, again, perception is everything.
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Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita View PostAnd nobody has seen the 50 mill contract so it means nothing.
Joshua asks for 50million.
Showtime forks up the funds.
Joshua and Hearn decline.
So Showtime gives up...
Joshua and Hearn didn’t make headlines that they were waiting for the 50 million contract.
Who called the bluff?
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Originally posted by davefromvancouv View PostWilder was the only champion at the time and he was being avoided as a high risk opponent.
No one avoids you when you have 50mil, not even i will avoid him.
This is the same BS excuse you guys have been using to protect wilder why he didn't fight any opponent with a pulse for over 39 fights.
The same BS you are still using. It's outdated man. Search for something new.
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Originally posted by Deus View PostThis notion of people being 'avoided' is all wrong. If people are deemed a high risk and thus struggling to get fights lined up then all it requires is for their backers to up the reward to entice people in.
If their backers are not willing to do that then it's clear as day they don't have faith in their fighter to deliver.
Thought they dropped it in 2018. It's becoming too shameful seeing this repeated excuses that a champ is been avoided. A champ that had 50mil. This is one of the worst BS excuses in decades.
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