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Tell you what, I'll break it down for y'all
Originally posted by Body Movin' View PostA.so you're saying blacks are protesting because of obscure legal cases that happened 20, 30, 40 years ago? that is a ridiculous premise and you know it lol. we have yet to hear any black activists on the news or black protestors on the streets claiming any of this stuff.
B.white protestors are handled the same way. you are seriously blowing this race thing out of proportion. you don't speak for all blacks nor do you know what every black person is thinking. i'm not sure why you're casually dismissing the numerous black pastors and community leaders urging their constituents to support trump. hell louis farrakhan has endorsed him.
C.i'm not going to try and tackle most of this because you are only skewering reality to fit your narrative.
B. White protesters are NOT treated the same. I never saw a white protester at one of these KKK rall...I mean, Trump rallies... called the N bomb and then ridiculed and spit upon as one shouts out "let's burn him!". Watch the footage. Its in their faces, grotesque and full of ignorance, hate, and fear, and Trump is pouring fuel to the flame of this madness..
I didnt make this about race, the divisiveness of your candidate's campaign has. The type of people your candidate attracts to his rallies have. Ironically, this election will end up being more about race than Obama's was.
As to the black people yall have found, Its a very small portion of the black vote. Outliers. 95-98 percent of the black vote will be against Trump when all is said and done. Especially when Obama hits the campaign trail this summer. Some of those personalities come out for Trump to get attention and/or notoriety as well. If pastors should be supporting anybody, it's should be Kasich. The man has been attending the same weekly bible study for 20 years and is a man of principle and values.
C. I am not making anything up. The dems have to do very little, Donald Trump is building the coalition against himself with his big fat mouth. Here's another group he's alienated once the Dems start having a field day with it. Women. The ongoing obsessive comments to Megyn Kelly are going to kill him with women too. Actually, if anyone makes it possible for a woman to get in office, it will be Trump.
Originally posted by mathed View PostYeah, when the KKK guy says that he supports Hillary it's "a muddy attempt" at a conspiracy. Sure thing there guy.......doesn't fit agenda....."it's a lie!!!".
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Originally posted by Syf View PostTell you what, I'll break it down for y'all
A.No.. thats how "I" know he's anti black. It's not common knowledge yet, but it will be once the dem machine starts up. Probably be the first thing Hillary brings up in a debate. Every vote eligible American will know Donald Trump's history of discriminatory practices, and it will absolutely kill him with minorities and people that are about equality.
As to why Black Lives Matter currently protest him, it's for two reasons imo. 1. He's a very divisive candidate (extreme divisiveness is not ideal for ANY minority). And 2. His widely known fumble about David Duke... now the protests are gathering momentum because of his incitement of violence against protesters. Not hard to figure out, and they're right.
if they are still protesting because of the david duke thing then they are simply misinformed idiots.
B. White protesters are NOT treated the same. I never saw a white protester at one of these KKK rall...I mean, Trump rallies... called the N bomb and then ridiculed and spit upon as one shouts out "let's burn him!". Watch the footage. Its in their faces, grotesque and full of ignorance, hate, and fear, and Trump is pouring fuel to the flame of this madness..
I didnt make this about race, the divisiveness of your candidate's campaign has. The type of people your candidate attracts to his rallies have. Ironically, this election will end up being more about race than Obama's was.
As to the black people yall have found, Its a very small portion of the black vote. Outliers. 95-98 percent of the black vote will be against Trump when all is said and done. Especially when Obama hits the campaign trail this summer. Some of those personalities come out for Trump to get attention and/or notoriety as well. If pastors should be supporting anybody, it's should be Kasich. The man has been attending the same weekly bible study for 20 years and is a man of principle and values.
C. I am not making anything up. The dems have to do very little, Donald Trump is building the coalition against himself with his big fat mouth. Here's another group he's alienated once the Dems start having a field day with it. Women. The ongoing obsessive comments to Megyn Kelly are going to kill him with women too. Actually, if anyone makes it possible for a woman to get in office, it will be Trump.
If white supremists had tabbed her first that's one thing. I think by now they have learned their "endorsements" do more harm than good to a candidate, hence the belated Hillary endorsement. It's common sense. They are just trying to confuse the minority vote. It won't work.
donald trump was forced to disavow david duke a dozen times in the span of a week, a man he literally has zero ties with. clearly that wasn't enough so BLM needs to riot. has anybody asked hillary to disavow close friend robert byrd? i guess none of it matters as long as she's a democrat and promising handouts right?
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Originally posted by Body Movin' View Postfascinating that you are onto something that should be common knowledge by now. i wonder why it isn't? i'd like to see hillary try, there's plenty of material on her.
yea they're so right that trump won Chicago and will probably win Arizona because of yesterday. shutting down other people's right to assemble and free speech is NOT right and most Americans can see through it. attempting to combat "fascism" through fascist means is about as stupid as it gets.
if they are still protesting because of the david duke thing then they are simply misinformed idiots.
white liberals are thrown out the same way, there's plenty of evidence that proves it. a white reporter got WWE'd by security. you're feigning ignorance and twisting reality to fit a narrative. 'hey black people, the world is burning! the world is burning!" this is what you basically sound like.
stopping illegal immigration and vetting muslims was never about racism but obviously there are plenty of losers in this country who obsess about it.
he won't get the majority black vote because he's not a democrat and isn't a welfare candidate, not because he's a racist, plain and simple.
Welfare... That's a code word for you guys isn't it. But none of you ever stop to wonder why so many black people are suffering and in need of aid. You blame black people, I blame systemic racism that has moved from the fields to the board rooms, from the slave auction block to being a war economically waged. Obviously welfare and other govt assistance is only a temporary fix, but A viable candidate will have a salient plan to help lift up the misfortunates who are in dire peril of life and happiness. I just had a chat with a guy who works 80 hours a week of backbreaking labor, and still can't make ends meet for his family. Is that his fault? No, it's the system's. You can't call him lazy (as much as your little heart desires to), he works more than you do!
listening to you speak about alienating voters, one would think nobody is voting for trump or showing up at his rallies by the tens of thousands. you seem very confident but you might be in for a shock just saying.
spin spin spin. you remind of that MSNBC host.
Currently, Y'all are a very vocal and mobilized 12 or so percent of the American electorate. I can break that down for you if you like, but that's a mostly accurate figure. As things go to the general election, assuming a brokered convention doesn't turn everything on its head, y'all will receive a boost from the republican's us vs them mentality. However, you need more than full Republican turnout for your candidate to win. See, republicans are outnumbered in this country, it's about 60 40, ironically, as per your user title (not factoring outliers like independents ect). Congress being republican is merely because of how the congressional districts are set up, but Dems have the numerical majority. All Dems have to do is get normal turnout, and their candidate will win. Trump has to get all republicans to vote for him, and get a 10% crossover rate from dem voters.
That will simply not happen. He will "bleed" women voters from his own party let alone the Dems. And he will lose many many Hispanic voters as well. As I said, his electoral map is laughable. If I was the dem campaign strategist the way forward against trump would read like a friggin road map.
donald trump was forced to disavow david duke a dozen times in the span of a week, a man he literally has zero ties with. clearly that wasn't enough so BLM needs to riot. has anybody asked hillary to disavow close friend robert byrd? i guess none of it matters as long as she's a democrat and promising handouts right?
Byrd- "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times . . . and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."
Only he and the Lord knows if his repentance was heartfelt, but as for me, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. As did Hillary. Far cry away from Duke, who still denies the holocaust And is still part of a white supremist group. Or Trump, who's modus operandi is to deny everything and lie. Unremorseful, unrepentant. Wrong for America.
Finito.
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Originally posted by Syf View PostHis GOP opponents aren't interested in the black vote. They don't care about the few outliers, it's not statistically viable to waste time and resources courting an anemic republican black vote. However, the information that Trump has a history of discriminatory business practice WILL be used by the Dems in the general election to mobilize the very significant Dem black vote. Assume I got a crystal ball, because that will happen.
No, It progressed and escalated from being a few protesters over the David Duke thing to a nationwide phenomena. Why? Because Trump incited violence against protesters. Told his supporting people to throw hands and he will cover the medical expenses, ect. His reaction to the initial protesters could have cooled the situation, but instead, he poured fuel to the flame, as is his way. Now the protests are gaining momentum, and for THAT reason. He brought this on himself.
I don't need to say anything about burning, Trump supporters say it all for me.
Being strong on those issues is not a problem for most Americans, but it's the way you go about it. Trump has extremely divisive and incendiary language that does not belong in the mindset of the leader of the free world.
Welfare... That's a code word for you guys isn't it.
But none of you ever stop to wonder why so many black people are suffering and in need of aid. You blame black people, I blame systemic racism that has moved from the fields to the board rooms, from the slave auction block to being a war economically waged. Obviously welfare and other govt assistance is only a temporary fix, but A viable candidate will have a salient plan to help lift up the misfortunates who are in dire peril of life and happiness.
ain't that some ****?
I just had a chat with a guy who works 80 hours a week of backbreaking labor, and still can't make ends meet for his family. Is that his fault? No, it's the system's. You can't call him lazy (as much as your little heart desires to), he works more than you do!
Don't watch MSNBC too much. I actually watch more CNN than anything. Even will watch some Oreilly on Fox from time to time.
Currently, Y'all are a very vocal and mobilized 12 or so percent of the American electorate. I can break that down for you if you like, but that's a mostly accurate figure. As things go to the general election, assuming a brokered convention doesn't turn everything on its head, y'all will receive a boost from the republican's us vs them mentality. However, you need more than full Republican turnout for your candidate to win. See, republicans are outnumbered in this country, it's about 60 40, ironically, as per your user title (not factoring outliers like independents ect). Congress being republican is merely because of how the congressional districts are set up, but Dems have the numerical majority. All Dems have to do is get normal turnout, and their candidate will win. Trump has to get all republicans to vote for him, and get a 10% crossover rate from dem voters.
That will simply not happen. He will "bleed" women voters from his own party let alone the Dems. And he will lose many many Hispanic voters as well. As I said, his electoral map is laughable. If I was the dem campaign strategist the way forward against trump would read like a friggin road map.
While it's reprehensible in concept, Byrd was in the KKK in the 40's and has since repented. Christians believe in repentance and forgiveness. He is dead now and his short stint with the KKK was over 70 years ago.
Byrd- "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times . . . and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."
Only he and the Lord knows if his repentance was heartfelt, but as for me, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. As did Hillary. Far cry away from Duke, who still denies the holocaust And is still part of a white supremist group. Or Trump, who's modus operandi is to deny everything and lie. Unremorseful, unrepentant. Wrong for America.
Finito.
so trump is much worse than someone who was actually in the KKK because he does what every politician does, including your candidate? this is cartoon logic, man.
trump has disavowed the KKK and david duke several times so i don't get why this is even a point of issue.Last edited by John Barron; 03-21-2016, 04:27 AM.
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Mini civil battles will happen in the USA as soon as Trump gets the nomination and a full blown civil war will break out if Trump is elected.
Fair or not fair it will happen.
In the end IMO I think anytime you genocide 120 million people and then create a country in that land of the 120 million people and expect things to always be rosy is a mistake.Last edited by The Fuhrer; 03-21-2016, 01:47 AM.
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syf, hillary is facing felony charges and has a rap sheet in Washington longer than bill's ho contact list on his phone. can you imagine her trying to counter the attacks with weak legal cases from the 70's? the silence will be deafening. astronomically high chance the donald destroys her in these debates. trump is a high profile guy and the best dirt they got on him were those lame ass trump university lawsuits and something about illegal Polish workers (which worked so well for rubio right? )
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