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Old 06-03-2020, 04:03 AM #21
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I'm gonna say that a Pac win over Crawford is way bigger than the old Mayweather vs Canelo win. It is a more interesting question if you ask would Pac over Crawford be bigger than Mayweather vs Canelo NOW
Crawford's signature win ?
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Crawford's signature win ?
I don't know that Bud really has a signature win. His resume is notoriously weak according to many on this forum. I was probably wrong to say that a Pac over Bud would be WAY bigger than the old FMJ over Canelo but in my opinion I think Pac over Bud would be bigger and I say that mostly because I think Floyd wasn't really expected to lose by many while Bud has a decent chance to take Pac
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Old 06-03-2020, 04:12 AM #23
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I don't know that Bud really has a signature win. His resume is notoriously weak according to many on this forum. I was probably wrong to say that a Pac over Bud would be WAY bigger than the old FMJ over Canelo but in my opinion I think Pac over Bud would be bigger and I say that mostly because I think Floyd wasn't really expected to lose by many while Bud has a decent chance to take Pac
I'm hoping Bud and Spence earns the rep they have. They haven't yet, imho
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Old 06-03-2020, 04:12 AM #24
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You have got to be smoking some good stuff to actually say that!

Both fights were catch-weights but one guy totally dominated the other and the other guy may have last 2 rounds plus got his ear drum busted!

Canelo also went on to beat Cotto, the Canelo win is looking greater and greater, not sure if Bud could bounce back if he loses to Pacquiao especially in a fight he would be a pretty good favorite to win!
Floyd’s win over Canelo is overrated because Floyd proved that 2lbs makes a difference if the advantage is intentional. For all the Floyd fans saying PAC was the catchweight king, well if Floyd was an exceptional “seasoned” Welterweight then it means Floyd needed no reason to adjust the contract with Marquez from 144 to 146. I’ve always said that Floyd still cuts water, not necessarily “drain” but about 6lbs of water from 146-147. So he’s about 154lbs max in the ring in Welterweight bouts, at least that’s POST Floyd. Even Floyd needing an IV for dehydration against PAC corroborates why 2lbs had to be adjusted for Marquez. Any boxer whom is looked as the Gold standard gym rat to not suffer any weight means he could easily sacrifice 2-3lbs for the 144 catchweight.

THEREFORE, since Floyd did it, proving that his performance would be hindered with Marquez, is the reason why he pushed for 152 or no fight. Floyd has always bragged about giving other fighters what they want due to his confidence and ego, but he didn’t attempt the full 154 as he did with DLH or Cotto. Everyone knew Canelo was having a hard time to make weight since Cintron. Canelo wasn’t a gym rat back in those days too.

Point is for whatever reason Canelo haters always criticize his abilities against other fighters can easily be applied with Floyd.

Water is the root essential for any performance. Being hydrated makes a difference. If you’re dehydrated FOR ANY SPORT, you muscles tense up, freeze, lock...you’re not tip top. Again, Floyd needed an IV for rehydration.

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Old 06-03-2020, 04:16 AM #25
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I'm hoping Bud and Spence earns the rep they have. They haven't yet, imho
I wanna see Spence Vs Crawford more than any other fight in boxing right now personally. Preferably while they are both undefeated
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I wanna see Spence Vs Crawford more than any other fight in boxing right now personally. Preferably while they are both undefeated
Ditto

We need to see one of the make the claim to the WW throne.
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Floyd’s win over Canelo is overrated because Floyd proved that 2lbs makes a difference if the advantage is intentional. For all the Floyd fans saying PAC was the catchweight king, well if Floyd was an exceptional “seasoned” Welterweight then it means Floyd needed no reason to adjust the contract with Marquez from 144 to 146. I’ve always said that Floyd still cuts water, not necessarily “drain” but about 6lbs of water from 146-147. So he’s about 154lbs max in the ring in Welterweight bouts, at least that’s POST Floyd. Even Floyd needing an IV for dehydration against PAC corroborates why 2lbs had to be adjusted for Marquez. Any boxer whom is looked as the Gold standard gym rat to not suffer any weight means he could easily sacrifice 2-3lbs for the 144 catchweight.

THEREFORE, since Floyd did it, proving that his performance would be hindered with Marquez, is the reason why he pushed for 152 or no fight. Floyd has always bragged about giving other fighters what they want due to his confidence and ego, but he didn’t attempt the full 154 as he did with DLH or Cotto. Everyone knew Canelo was having a hard time to make weight since Cintron. Canelo wasn’t a gym rat back in those days too.

Point is for whatever reason Canelo haters always criticize his abilities against other fighters can easily be applied with Floyd.

Water is the root essential for any performance. Being hydrated makes a difference. If you’re dehydrated FOR ANY SPORT, you muscles tense up, freeze, lock...you’re not tip top. Again, Floyd needed an IV for rehydration.
Of course it's overated. We don't know if Floyd would beat nelo without cw. Pac s campaigned at WW for 10 years after beating cott o to conclude Pac beats cotto.

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Pacquiao over Crawford would be far bigger, but what Crawford does after is important.
Yeah unfortunately all the haters are right that Crawford is a highly touted talent without having ever proven it
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Pac/Thurman was already a better win than Floyd/Canelo.
You are one of very few and maybe the only one in the world who believes that.

You also are preferential to whites and vote Republican, but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it
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Old 06-03-2020, 06:28 AM #30
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You are one of very few and maybe the only one in the world who believes that Thurman is better win than nelo
Thurman is better win than nelo. Floyd sabotaged his win over nelo. Floyd s win won't age well as he sabotaged it from outset the win can't grow.

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Yeah unfortunately all the haters are right that Crawford is a highly touted talent without having ever proven it
Crawford has actually looked spectacular beating who he beat at times. Nel o was highly touted when Floyd beat nelo, but nel o had not beaten anyone that good dominantly. Nel o wasn't top ten according to most people at time he didn't look that good v trout.
Nel o win won't grow as Floyd sabotaged with cw as well as green.

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