Did Floyd Prove Rope'a'Dope benefits lower weights too?

[Lester Tutor]

marquez was fighting two weight classes higher than he had been, and he was 130-135 on the week of the fight at the time when he was champion at LW. that floyd's legs looked young against a guy who was jiggling all over the ring needs to be taken with a grain of salt. marquez needed heredia to really "be a welterweight", , which i'll talk about later in the post.


was he looking prime against madiana in the second fight? no. but was he looking suspiciously better, considering that it was, IIRC, the first time he had hired ariza, a guy who has subsequently had a fighter [rios in the pacquiao fight] pop positive for PEDS?

the variation in the performance of floyd's legs, given that he had just hooked up with a steroid guy, are suspicious.

add in that he was popped before the pacquiao fight taking a lot of saline [this is a fighter who claims to drop no weight,] his behavior is highly suspicious. ariza also "consulted" with memo heredia, who was crucial in the grand jury indictment of trevor graham and balco

i also suspect manny was on something when he was with ariza. it's common sense to suspect one if you suspect the other.

So in other words Floyd wanted to hire Ariza so late in his game to draw particular attention and knew of the benefits or circumstances that Ariza had given Pacquiao?

Seems like a win win situation for Floyd since the date he had hired Ariza during his career?

Haymon would've stopped Floyd hiring Ariza for bad press if those theories hold. Seemed pretty obvious Floyd hired Ariza to stress out Top Rank, Pac, and Roach as a general statement, not because of "nutrition."

[New England]

So in other words Floyd wanted to hire Ariza so late in his game to draw particular attention and knew of the benefits or circumstances that Ariza had given Pacquiao?

Seems like a win win situation for Floyd since the date he had hired Ariza during his career?

Haymon would've stopped Floyd hiring Ariza for bad press if those theories hold. Seemed pretty obvious Floyd hired Ariza to stress out Top Rank, Pac, and Roach as a general statement, not because of "nutrition."

he hired him to rejuvenate his nearly 40 year old body. with drugs. i dont' even understand what your post is implying, but i smell a floyd mayweather driven agenda, brih!

[New England]

i read it again:

manny hired ariza to administer illegal drugs and boost performance.


floyd hired him for "mind games."

you guys really can't believe that floyd is the saint you make him out to be.

[Dip_Slide]

ali was on the ropes primarily because his legs had slowed down. you have to remember that ali had a hall of fame career from '62 - '67, the liston fight through the layoff after zora foley.


floyd was on the ropes against maidana for similar reasons. then he *cough* looked young and fresh in the rematch after hooking up with alex ariza


there's really no benefit to being on the ropes habitually. yes you can set traps, but you're better off not lingering there. it's typically a place where older fighters feel comfortable, because they can be tricky and evasive without using their old legs and draining their tanks.


floyd relaly only ended up on the ropes for extended periods of time when he was eithe rbeing held, or when he was older. jesus chavez kept him on the ropes in spots, but chavez went for broke and punched himself out completely within the first half of the fight.

In the Maidana rematch Floyd had to hold like he never did before because he was tired, this was the worst he's ever looked condition-wise.

[New England]

In the Maidana rematch Floyd had to hold like he never did before because he was tired, this was the worst he's ever looked condition-wise.

wasn't looking as bad "conditioning-wise" as when he was stuck on the ropes and getting his veneers knocked out

[Lester Tutor]

he hired him to rejuvenate his nearly 40 year old body. with drugs. i dont' even understand what your post is implying, but i smell a floyd mayweather driven agenda, brih!

sure man... usually when people do crimes and make efforts to hide evidence their goal is to be conspicuous! Clearly Ariza wasn't known for PEDs provided to Pac. Yeah, the richest athlete in the world, Floyd, along with the advocacy of Haymon Sports was just clearly immune to rival industry competitors whom efforts would be easy if your theory was that easy... lol

[Robbie Barrett]

wasn't looking as bad "conditioning-wise" as when he was stuck on the ropes and getting his veneers knocked out

Mayweather chose to fight that way in the 1st fight, all his fans said it but people didn't believe it. It was proven correct in the 2nd fight. The tooth happened in the 2nd fight BTW.

Don't go saying PEDs just because you weren't able to spot it, you're not the boxing expert you think you are.

[New England]

sure man... usually when people do crimes and make efforts to hide evidence their goal is to be conspicuous! Clearly Ariza wasn't known for PEDs provided to Pac. Yeah, the richest athlete in the world, Floyd, along with the advocacy of Haymon Sports was just clearly immune to rival industry competitors whom efforts would be easy if your theory was that easy... lol

what on earth are you even trying to say ?

[Lester Tutor]

what on earth are you even trying to say ?

in relation to the thread? I don't know... maybe Floyd was taking care of business like a pimp on the ropes against Cotto?

[Butt stuff]

sure man... usually when people do crimes and make efforts to hide evidence their goal is to be conspicuous! Clearly Ariza wasn't known for PEDs provided to Pac. Yeah, the richest athlete in the world, Floyd, along with the advocacy of Haymon Sports was just clearly immune to rival industry competitors whom efforts would be easy if your theory was that easy... lol

Is that some ******ed version of sarcasm? Because I know you know about the ol' Ariza shakes that Pacman was chugging.