Originally posted by El Angel
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Why do people think Cotto would beat Martinez?
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Originally posted by Ratchet View PostYeah, that seems to be the consensus online. Personally, I think Sergio had an off night against Murray. He doesn't look as spectacular against defensive fighters as he does against overly-aggressive fighters. But, against fighters that want to pressure him, Sergio looks amazing.
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Originally posted by Ratchet View PostMy biggest question is "how" does Cotto win? I mean, I get that you think Cotto would win, but break down HOW he would win.
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I think Cotto is a better boxer, in the traditional sense, than Martínez. Cotto has solid skills and fundamentals, while Sergio relies more on reflexes and athleticism. Sergio is this generation's Roy and that style does not work for a long career.
This is an intriguing, even fight right now. I could see Cotto landing the jab at an alarming rate and, possibly, getting a win on points but I could also see a Sergio moving or knocking Cotto out with one shot. Sergio has slowed down enough to make this fight as even as it could ever be.
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Originally posted by puga View Postwhat he had an off night vs barker too , or macklin?.. defensive ?.. murray just used the high guard and landed at will...dont even say presssure fighters coz he lost to margs..i know he was young then but so was margs...
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Originally posted by Exciterx30 View PostI think Cotto is a better boxer, in the traditional sense, than Martínez. Cotto has solid skills and fundamentals, while Sergio relies more on reflexes and athleticism. Sergio is this generation's Roy and that style does not work for a long career.
This is an intriguing, even fight right now. I could see Cotto landing the jab at an alarming rate and, possibly, getting a win on points but I could also see a Sergio moving or knocking Cotto out with one shot. Sergio has slowed down enough to make this fight as even as it could ever be.
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I think this is a 50-50 fight. If Martinez can turn back the clock (pre-Chavez 12th round) then I would favor him to win, but he hasn't looked great since that 12th round and I believe that's why many think Cotto can win.
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Originally posted by Ratchet View PostYes but Margarito learned his style much earlier on than Sergio. I think a rematch at middleweight or even 154 would leave Margarito damaged....but he's retired now so it's not much to debate. And yes. Nobody expected Macklin to come into the fight boxing off the back foot. If he fought the same fight he did against Sturm, he would've gotten KO'ed earlier. And Barker had a nice gameplan. Still got knocked out but he had a good gameplan to make the fight last longer.
nobody cares about excuses esp for a 3 off nights....thats **** just wont fly.
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Originally posted by El Angel View PostSergio's hands down and constant movement style works very well against pressure fighters who have no clue how to cut off the ring, ie. Chavez Jr. But when he's trapped in corners and on the ropes, like in the Murray fight, he can be touched and frequently. Cotto cuts off the ring better than anyone in game, only one close is GGG. He needs to work his jab and attack Maravilla's body early and often, but that's not impossible for him to do. Most important, is that Freddie get him in shape and condition for the highest weight of his career. He'll need to be moving often to get to Sergio and he needs to be prepared for that.
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Originally posted by Ratchet View PostNice breakdown. I disagree on the "better boxer" part. I don't see the jab landing with consistency. I think Maravilla will eventually time it and start to land hard right hooks on the top of Cotto's jab. Then, Cotto will try to outbox Sergio and he'll learn very quickly that it's hard to outbox someone who has all the physical advantages over you. He'll also be at the end of Martinez's Left straight. I see Cotto getting KO'd in a valiant effort but comes up short.
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