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Old 09-19-2018, 03:34 PM #111
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Mikey can't fight Loma - he's fighting Spence isn't is he... Oh wait, that just an attention-whore stunt
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Everyone knows Spence will win that fight,but why don't you call out loma for all his rubbish fights vs overmatched competition?Lomas the same size as mikey btw. But your the same clown who was saying canelos bigger than ggg. Out of loma & Mikey,mikey has fought 10x better competition,lomas fans are deluded for claiming lomas some tiny dude,hes mikeys size & can add muscle easily on that frame if he so chose.

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Old 09-19-2018, 03:34 PM #112
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I wasn't one of those people saying those things & if you were to check my history youd see that (don't think youd bother but still)I said Loma was going to destroy rigo & that rigo wouldn't last til the 8th.

So far I've noticed Loma is fighting nothing but WBO fights which is the org Arum almost owns,if Loma was to take the fight vs Mikey & do good not even necessarily win,I'd be the 1st in line to call him a top p4p champ,

I personally think hes very skilled but hasn't faced competition near to fighters like Mikey yet,& most have been nowhere near the level for me to actually expect an exciting fight aside from linares & Salido.

Pedraza for instance is rubbish imho,& Arum never has problems making fights with fighters like rigo without a pot to pīssin & who are on way out looking to cash in.

Its when he has to make a Marquee fight that he starts bull****tin & stalling for ages, because he doesn't want to risk it.
Lomachenko beat Linares for the WBA belt. I agree he hasn't faced an opponent as good as Mikey but the same is true of Mikey he hasn't faced anyone as good as Loma. Sure, he's always talked about it but he's turned down a lot of fights he asked for including one with Linares which would have been his toughest fight to date. Linares' style, speed and combinations would have given Mikey something to think about.

I think Pedraza is a solid fighter nothing special. He's a little bit better than Easter and Zlatcinin IMO.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:37 PM #113
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Everyone knows Spence will win that fight,but why don't you call out loma for all his rubbish fights vs overmatched competition?Lomas the same size as mikey btw. But your the same clown who was saying canelos bigger than ggg.
Yeah, I'm going to call out Loma, a guy who has moved up and fought at 3 weight divisions and fights all of the high-ranked boxers in each division. That's the guy to call out?

Canelo has fought at a higher weight than GGG - GGG hasn't fought above 160 and Canelo fought at 164, didn't he? That's all I said. GGG is also closer to 40 than he is 30, and most people believe GGG won both fights. Not getting your point here?

So Loma isn't the best lb for lb fighter right now?
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:41 PM #114
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Everyone knows Spence will win that fight,but why don't you call out loma for all his rubbish fights vs overmatched competition?Lomas the same size as mikey btw. But your the same clown who was saying canelos bigger than ggg. Out of loma & Mikey,mikey has fought 10x better competition,lomas fans are deluded for claiming lomas some tiny dude,hes mikeys size & can add muscle easily on that frame if he so chose.
"mikey has fought 10x better competition"
you've got it mixed around chief, loma has fought 10x better competition in 25 fewer fights lmfao
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:41 PM #115
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"Mikey comes with an unrealistic scene of self worth." That's common knowledge, just a fact. Almost every promoter in the business have stated the same....Google it. Mikey is not fighting Spence because there is not enough to pay what Mikey wants. Simply put, the numbers aren't there, never were.
Mikey makes more than what the promoters are paying their fighter. Linares was getting paid 250k from Oscar and GB and couldn't put 3k fans at the Forum but somehow Oscar thought he deserved to get a 50/50 split and they call the shots? Mikey is making more than Loma as well, so it's Mikey fault that he won't take less money from these promoters to make a fight? Let's be honest, if Mikey was with Top Rank or GB they would not be saying this and they would not be accepting any fights if Mikey was expected to take less. These guys wouldn't even allow their fighters to fight Mikey if he and Showtime were going to pay more money. Mikey and Spence isn't happening cause Wilder/Fury took precedence and Showtime can only put that fight together if its on PPV. They got to be able to pay both fighters not just Mikey.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:42 PM #116
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Everyone knows Spence will win that fight,but why don't you call out loma for all his rubbish fights vs overmatched competition?Lomas the same size as mikey btw. But your the same clown who was saying canelos bigger than ggg. Out of loma & Mikey,mikey has fought 10x better competition,lomas fans are deluded for claiming lomas some tiny dude,hes mikeys size & can add muscle easily on that frame if he so chose.
Loma and Mikey aren't the same size. They had that closeup at the ESPN studios last year and there was quite a difference. Mikey walks around as a light heavyweight (there was a video posted recently him saying he was around 175-180) and Lomachenko walks around well under the welterweight limit.

I've seen them both up close but not together and it did strike me that Loma is a little guy. He's basically just an average sized featherweight he's not much bigger than say Abner Mares who I've seen around quite a lot for example.

I'm not sure how much size plays into the match though. Mikey is a technical boxer who'll look to choose his shots, Loma will be looking to give difficult angles and use his superior speed advantage.

In general people are happy with Loma's competition hence him being p4p #1 under every outlet. He took on fights people demanded and he won them hence why he's been rated the #1 in every division he got to based on merit.

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Old 09-19-2018, 03:45 PM #117
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Ofcourse I am. When it's in favor of a Mexican, you're with it. When it's against a Mexican, you throw a fit. Because you're... Mexican.
LOL....I'm not Mexican. On the real I'm not.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:48 PM #118
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I posted a video in this thread of Robert saying 3-4 years from February 2018 is when the fight should happen.

Remember a lot of posters here said Arum will never give Rigo a shot (even when negotiating this time last year for the fight) and then there was no chance he'd make the Linares fight.

I really don't like Arum but fair is fair. He's made good matches for Loma that people said wouldn't and couldn't happen.

Mikey's been using Spence's name to promote recent fights.
What do Rigo and Linares have in common? They don't sell and aren't a priority of a network or promoter. Linares was getting shipped out to the UK by GB and paying him 250k to fight in front of 3k fans at the Forum. Rigo is even worse. Both those guys had no Network backing and agreed to whatever terms Arum dictated. Now fights with top level fighters like Mikey, Thurman, Spence, Porter or Garcia won't be that easy and there is no way Arum allows his fighters to agree to offers from other Networks or fight off ESPN. Arum already stated, Mikey must agree to his offer and split or no fight.
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Old 09-19-2018, 03:53 PM #119
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Linares made $1m to fight Loma too which is about 750k more than his last couple fights BY FAR his highest payday. Rigo made about the same as he made vs. Donaire so Arum also has paid these guys equal or far greater paydays than their current promoters delivered for them so the issue isn't 100% him. Mikey has called for MANY fights and been the one to "go another direction" for various reasons and with different promoters.
Obviously because he wasn't going to take less money to fight Linares who wanted 50/50. Or he wasn't going to sign off options to other promoters to get a fight. The Linares fight had to be promoted by GB, Mikey and Showtime made Linares an offer to fight on Showtime promoted by Ringstar. People don't know that but Oscar didn't allow it.
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Your hi-tech bias.
I'm biased, but you're taking sides, while I'm saying both will need to work together to make it happen.
Almost everyone in this thread is just blaming one side or the other, but that is not the correct way at going at this.

What I am saying is that Loma and his side, which includes Bob, has already made a few fights that fans wanted to see him be part of.
It hasn't been the same story for Mikey.
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