Comments Thread For: Fury's Dubious Decision & Why Wilder Won't Accept Arum's Offer

[MDPopescu]

So if Wilder doesn't sign the ESPN deal then Fury has just put himself into no mans lands, stuck in a deal where he won't be able to agree deals with Wilder or Joshua.

ESPN getting involved just delivers the fans more meaningless fights while they try to gain subscribers to their digital platform and build up to a fight that requires no building up as we were due to get it next.

... fighters, promoters, TV channels, online platforms have equal rights in acting in this sport/business... all those must find solutions to co-operate... if not, this sport is dead...

[JWHardin]

When could AJ have fought Ortiz? Four different times that I remember.

First was when he fought Breazeale, who just lost every round to old small Mansour before it was stopped due to injury.

Second was when he fought Molina, who was a Wilder left over.

Third was Takam,, when Pulev backed out. They knew Pulev would, and had Takam ready instead of offering to Ortiz.

Fourth was most recently, instead of Whyte and/or Miller.

Spin away, but everyone knows what's going on. Hearn kept Ortiz away from not only AJ but Whyte too. Pretty soon Ortiz will be old enough, a year or two from now, that they will fight him and say, see he isn't anyone we ducked.

Now we have Arum latching on to a new cash cow, or who he thinks could be. Don't expect Fury vs Wilder next. British Bob (Hearn) and American Bob will have to battle it out. Another black eye for boxing.

[REDEEMER]

Did you read the article or just saw the headline and just decided to type ?
I’m taking a guess and saying just the headline

It’s crazy but the headlines comes with a attached article and in it was reported Top Ranks offer to Wilder was for 5 fights on Espn or Espn + with a fury fight somewhere in there but it wouldn’t be first and no guarantee of it being the second.

Even if you believe Fury beat Wilder and was now clearly the #2 HW. Running away from a rematch that was 50/50 against the #3 whos besides himself is considered the only active top tier HW besides AJ , and a chance to actually get the WBC strap and leave no doubt that a draw in the first fight was BS but to instead align with TR and most likely fighting mostly 2nd and 3rd tier no name HWs isn’t a good look ,’Big contract or not it’s clear Fury didn’t want the rematch and shouldn’t be viewed as #2 when you had a chance but ran away from#3’. Their position has to switch. You can you justify and reward that move and still have him -#2 .surely You can’t reward such a move can you. In what world should Fury still be considered #2 for avoiding the rematch which was officially a draw. No matter what your opinion is Wilder walked in and out the ring with his strap and wanted a rematch and Fury swerved that’s not the actions of
The #2.’can give a reason why he shouldn’t be 3

That’s the differnce between me and you. I’ll give you reasons Why I wrote what i wrote

You seem to write off emoton and and
Whos views are often flat out wrong and you can’t even provide a explanation why you believe what you typed

The article says Fury has a 5 fight deal with one fight including Wilder. Wilder is only obligated to fight one prior fight before Fury so no there is no 5 fights for Wilder with the offer in that article.

So again you're not really in touch with reality on here, in fact didn't you do a thread yesterday and got completetly run off it by juggs who exposed you ? Where is that thread , Ha,wait a second

juggernaut666

[SchoolTheseCats]

Did you notice how the writer didn't make reference to the eliminator between Brezeale/Whyte? He simply assumed Brezeale will get Wilder right away. Well, I'd like to see the WBC's next move and won't be surprised if they make a fool of themselves... again.

Breazeale is mando won’t need to do a interim wbc title fight since wilder/fury2 not happening

[R_Walken]

Where's Wilder's multi-million doller contract???

Why won't anybody commit to more than a fight with him??

Even Arum and Hearn have said they will only offer 1/2 fights!

Have you seen the state of his purses comparative to the likes of AJ/Whyte & now Fury??

Come on bro, Fury's getting the deal YOUR fighter should be getting!!!

Ouch

Obviously like your simpleton friend you didn’t read the article which said Top Rank just offered Wilder a 5 fight deal for millions

Fury isn’t going to get that full amount fighting 2nd and 3rd tier HW on regular Espn. No way even with UK PPV that it generates close to enough to pay him 20 mil a fight , Arum was paying
Manny 20’mil when he was selling 600-900k PPV now he’ll pay that for regular Espn and lose 8’figures every Fury fight that’s not happening or to be believed . He’s will get paid the # surely was just to get Headlines

Your in the group that thinks Wilder only making 2-7 million a fight is chump change . When I seriously doubt you even make 1/100fh of that and yet you want to try and criticize what he makes , seems odd some one like you who might be worth what $1000.00 to pocket watch and criticize a guy making multi millionaire

Yeah Wilder May not earn like AJ or Canelo that had a passionate fan base already established who support with their wallets . But Wilder is literally a top 5- 10 money maker in the sport and
You want to write like he’s broke and look down on someone making
Millions because he isn’t the highest
Paid and making tens of millions (pocket watching loser mentality) . Yeah compared to AJ maybe his cheques arentn impressive. but compared to the other 10000 active boxer he’s one of the few on the top of the mountain. Did I miss the memo when did making multi millions every year make you a chump and become a negative ,!something lames on the internet can critique like he’s somehow not balling the f.uck out for someone in their 30s

Next time read the article before you make yourself look stupid by writing sh.it that contradicts the exact things youre writing about and thinking their facts

[Phenom]

Obviously like your simpleton friend you didn’t read the article which said Top Rank just offered Wilder a 5 fight deal for millions

Fury isn’t going to get that full amount fighting 2nd and 3rd tier HW on regular Espn. No way even with UK PPV that it generates close to enough to pay him 20 mil a fight , Arum was paying
Manny 20’mil when he was selling 600-900k PPV now he’ll pay that for regular Espn and lose 8’figures every Fury fight that’s not happening or to be believed . He’s will get paid the # surely was just to get Headlines

Your in the group that thinks Wilder only making 2-7 million a fight is chump change . When I seriously doubt you even make 1/100fh of that and yet you want to try and criticize what he makes , seems odd some one like you who might be worth what $1000.00 to pocket watch and criticize a guy making multi millionaire

Yeah Wilder May not earn like AJ or Canelo that had a passionate fan base already established who support with their wallets . But Wilder is literally a top 5- 10 money maker in the sport and
You want to write like he’s broke and look down on someone making
Millions because he isn’t the highest
Paid and making tens of millions (pocket watching loser mentality) . Yeah compared to AJ maybe his cheques arentn impressive. but compared to the other 10000 active boxer he’s one of the few on the top of the mountain. Did I miss the memo when did making multi millions every year make you a chump and become a negative ,!something lames on the internet can critique like he’s somehow not balling the f.uck out for someone in their 30s

Next time read the article before you make yourself look stupid by writing sh.it that contradicts the exact things youre writing about and thinking their facts

Don't bother these people don't read they already have the reply pretyped

Don't expect a reasonable conversation

[BattlingNelson]

Told y'all with arum (das Jude) involved this is a fight not likely to be made neither is Crawford vs Spence Thurman or pacquiao or lomachancko vs Garcia this is all about milkry the cash cow. Fury isn't fighting AJ Wilder Whyte or Ortiz while undef the 5 fight co promotion with arum

Why did you type that?????????

[leeroy84]

Lol at Wilder fans thinking Fury's gone to ESPN for a bum carousel, no way Arum pays that amount of money without decent return.. Yes, Top Rank probably will "marinate" for a fight or two but the fights will happen (i'd like them too now btw!)

What's Wilder's excuse for his first 39 fights???? And then picking on a poorly old man who hasn't beaten anyone of note??? And then trying to cherry pick a 75% maximum Tyson Fury???

Wilder's the C-side now pmsl

[Phenom]

Just call it what it is...

[MDPopescu]

Why did you type that?????????

... Just gave him a red K and put him on ignore... (some also have this guy as a "snake", "the Shylock")...