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HW division is so depressing... Will it ever get back to at least 90's quality?
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Originally posted by nacho daddy View Postdreadful Klit bros era?? they killed 2 generations of young fighters and the older ones. nobody beat them without getting bludgeoned and beaten into history in the rematch. Vitali "lost" to Lewis who I liked and retired him also. I say Lewis would also tear thru the HW's today but not Fury
what makes you write lies like this? The K bro era was awful. It killed the HW scene.Last edited by DreamFighter; 01-02-2019, 04:18 PM.
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Originally posted by HitmanTommy View PostThe heavyweight division is the creme of the crop in boxing. There's no debating that. It's just depressing seeing the sad state it's in right now....
What's going on here?
Same ol' same ol', just new soft lads!
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Fury
AJ
Deyonce
Whyte
Ortiz
Usyk
Miller
Pulev
Povetkin
Parker
Prospects:
Hrgovic
Dubois
Gorman
Hughie
Kabayel
Hunter
Yoka
Kownacki
Joyce
Ajagba
Nah, the HW division is just fine. It's not the rest of the world's fault America has no good heavyweights.
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The heavyweight division has sucked for a longtime now. Wlad and Vitali with a time machine would be walking through these guys just the same as they did everyone else in their era. It was weak then and nothing has changed besides there isn't an obvious top dog anymore. Not because of skilled big men but because the top dogs got old. Wlad, Vitali, Lewis, Tyson, Bowe, etc. would humiliate these pretenders to the throne.
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I think it's coming back.
The NFL is alienating a lot of Black folks by lying about concussions, drugs, and blackballing Kaep (they couldn't even find any Black people to perform at the Super Bowl this year until Travis Scott's cornball a$$ stepped up) and the NBA is becoming more European-style without physicality.
If you're a young Black kid today, you have PBC where you can watch Wilder & The Charlos & guys like that on TV regularly.
I do think that the UFC is potential competition, as it's becoming more popular, but it doesn't pay what boxing does at the highest levels.
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It's interesting in 2019.
The culture of America has definitely changed, and not for the better. Integrity is not very important anymore. Humility is long gone. Taunting and showing off are a norm, even when people do mediocre things. People are taking the easier road these days.
Boxing is a very tough sport. It only makes sense that in a society where being comfortable is very important, that they not compete in such a sport that brings pain. Look at the NFL for example. You sneeze on somebody these days and it's a penalty. The entire rule book is being altered based on making fans happy, instead of keeping the integrity of the sport. Spoiled Americans don't want to see defensive battles. They want to see touchdowns and don't care how they come by.
Boxing has lost a lot of luster in my opinion due to the lack of discipline we have here in America. Everyone thinks they're the most important thing in the world. Patience is very hard to come by and everyone wants what they want right now and they're not willing to wait for it. I can almost compare this to professional wrestling. In places like Japan and Mexico, long periods of time where two wrestlers are in submission holds on the mat are applauded by fans. Here in America they're boo'd.
Two different worlds. Minds are much different. People think they deserve things. Give me my Air Conditioning. Give me my Wifi... and my new iPhone. Give me free schooling, free meals and free housing... And then lets kneel at the flag.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostWe'd already have it if boxing gyms were as prevalent as they used to be in the US. Maybe with the new TV exposure the big guys will get back to choosing boxing as their sport over football.
When the coach replies, "This is a boxing gym... Do you know where your son is?" They then decide to come down and realize what's going on. It's not a sport you play. Their kids goofing off, screwing around, etc. Then they see the kid get whipped in the ring by another 12 year old and are just completely out of touch with reality.
Other parents however, are completely in touch with reality. You wish these parents could hold seminars to teach parenting skills.
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