Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua 80% To Fight at Wembley on 4/13, Whyte is Likely

[denium]

Why is Fury not being considered? I'm sure Fury would choose Joshua over Wilder because there is more money in the Joshua fight.

Correct, but he won't fight Fury because he knows its a career ending fight.

[Noelanthony]

they crawled up their own ass over the $50M offer

and their $15M counter-offer was ABSURD

when Wilder accepted that ABSURD offer, they shat themselves

it is clearly obvious who avoided that fight, and who did not

just like Lennon Lewis said

only the Joshua fanboys are denying it

which is..... hilarious

Lol he accepted the derisory offer on social media. Just like me stating online that I would pay you $50 if Mikey shows up against Spence. Now everyone that saw my post was aware I made the bet. But baring those people if I choose to not pay you for whatever reason it would be my word against yours.

Wilder accepted in principle on social media that is all he did .and 5 months later you are all convinced he wanted to sign and the only reason he didn’t was no location and venue. Maybe Team Wilder were game and Joshua was scared. However, that was the past we are talking about now. Stop living in the past AJ wants him now and Deontay now wants it to be 3 names and 3 faces instead of his usual rubbish he spews

[Brit_1]

AJ 2019 will play out with Whyte, Pulev and later in year Baby Miller (MSG) for US debut.

[aboutfkntime]

Lol he accepted the derisory offer on social media. Just like me stating online that I would pay you $50 if Mikey shows up against Spence. Now everyone that saw my post was aware I made the bet. But baring those people if I choose to not pay you for whatever reason it would be my word against yours.

Wilder accepted in principle on social media that is all he did .and 5 months later you are all convinced he wanted to sign and the only reason he didn’t was no location and venue. Maybe Team Wilder were game and Joshua was scared. However, that was the past we are talking about now. Stop living in the past AJ wants him now and Deontay now wants it to be 3 names and 3 faces instead of his usual rubbish he spews

he is not scared, like some little kid..... they are simply playing risk/reward, and Wilder is dangerous as hell

seen it MANY times before

not a big deal..... until someone decides to ignore that, and throw the other guy under a bus

[Noelanthony]

he is not scared, like some little kid..... they are simply playing risk/reward, and Wilder is dangerous as hell

seen it MANY times before

not a big deal..... until someone decides to ignore that, and throw the other guy under a bus

You said it. Wilder is dangerous as hell when his opponent doesn’t have baby oil on or is mouth isn’t hurting

[doom_specialist]

That is the only time Wilder fans have a leg to stand on I agree. Guilty as charged . However as a AJ fan I would never advise him to fight Wilder on enemy soil. I think home advantage is huge for AJ . Who knows how he will perform when the entire crowd wants his head on a plate. He might enter the ring and start throwing his hands like Broner and get stage fright. Who knows but for a few million more is it worth taking the risk? He would fight Fury in America , or Fat baby or any other heavyweight. He respects what Wilder is capable of

Maybe I’m reaching here but I think Wilder does not want to fight AJ in the U.K. for the very same reason AJ didn’t want to fight Wilder in the statball

That's what being a champion and a prizefighter is all about. If he's gonna hold up hundreds of millions of dollars because he's scared to fight away from home, then everyone criticising him is correct. He asked for $50M he didn't actually want, because he never expected Wilder to get it. At least be real about that.

If he wanted Wilder at Wembley as badly as he says he does, 50-50 no BS would immediately get it done. We know which side is playing games, because it's the side that the flat fees keep coming from. And as far as not wanting to travel, Wilder was set to go to Russia when Povetkin got popped for meldonium. He also accepted Hearn's $15M low ball, that Hearn ultimately reneged on.

[Noelanthony]

That's what being a champion and a prizefighter is all about. If he's gonna hold up hundreds of millions of dollars because he's scared to fight away from home, then everyone criticising him is correct. He asked for $50M he didn't actually want, because he never expected Wilder to get it. At least be real about that.

If he wanted Wilder at Wembley as badly as he says he does, 50-50 no BS would immediately get it done. We know which side is playing games, because it's the side that the flat fees keep coming from. And as far as not wanting to travel, Wilder was set to go to Russia when Povetkin got popped for meldonium. He also accepted Hearn's $15M low ball, that Hearn ultimately reneged on.

You and I both know it doesn’t work like that. I may love a pair of Luis Vuitton shoes doesn’t mean I’m willing to pay 20 k for them just because I can or to prove I really want them.its not worth it and that’s it.

He is not worth 50/50 that is why he has not been offered that percentage and every Wilder fan should understand that without me having to break it down to them economically.

I don’t want to nitpick but the 50 million was mentioned by AJ but it didn’t mean him having to fight in the states but nevertheless he holds a big fat L for opening his trap. I have never shied away from that blunder.

When I was a youngster I thought I would make it big buying stolen goods of just about anyone. Rolex, jewellery you name it I bought. When dealing with clients my rule of thumb was to low ball and regardless of how much I wanted it don’t break the bank and show them I disinterested and I’m doing them a favour even bidding. If you can get away with exploiting a person because of their current plight do it. Promoters do this all the time. Don’t get me wrong the offer was derisory and disrespectful yet accepted on Social media. This is where I differ from you Wilder fans. Accepting an terms on social media means absolutely nothing when it comes to signing and then you go back on social media talking about the date and location. Wilder vs Fury didn’t have a date and location for weeks afterwards.

Finkel and co are astute business men. Wilder is a warrior I’m not doubting he was game and would have accepted but tell me the advantage of his team accepting such a low offer knowing the magnitude of the fight? But hey who cares now hey!

As for wilder travelling to Russia I’m not sure he has even set foot in Russia he was in England when the news broke. He couldn’t wait to get out of the fight and didn’t even wait for the B sample even after being advised to. You know how the story ends he ended up paying Povetkin 2 million so don’t use that example in future because that indicates to me he was not very keen at all in that assignment

[doom_specialist]

You and I both know it doesn’t work like that. I may love a pair of Luis Vuitton shoes doesn’t mean I’m willing to pay 20 k for them just because I can or to prove I really want them.its not worth it and that’s it.

He is not worth 50/50 that is why he has not been offered that percentage and every Wilder fan should understand that without me having to break it down to them economically.

I don’t want to nitpick but the 50 million was mentioned by AJ but it didn’t mean him having to fight in the states but nevertheless he holds a big fat L for opening his trap. I have never shied away from that blunder.

When I was a youngster I thought I would make it big buying stolen goods of just about anyone. Rolex, jewellery you name it I bought. When dealing with clients my rule of thumb was to low ball and regardless of how much I wanted it don’t break the bank and show them I disinterested and I’m doing them a favour even bidding. If you can get away with exploiting a person because of their current plight do it. Promoters do this all the time. Don’t get me wrong the offer was derisory and disrespectful yet accepted on Social media. This is where I differ from you Wilder fans. Accepting an terms on social media means absolutely nothing when it comes to signing and then you go back on social media talking about the date and location. Wilder vs Fury didn’t have a date and location for weeks afterwards.

Finkel and co are astute business men. Wilder is a warrior I’m not doubting he was game and would have accepted but tell me the advantage of his team accepting such a low offer knowing the magnitude of the fight? But hey who cares now hey!

As for wilder travelling to Russia I’m not sure he has even set foot in Russia he was in England when the news broke. He couldn’t wait to get out of the fight and didn’t even wait for the B sample even after being advised to. You know how the story ends he ended up paying Povetkin 2 million so don’t use that example in future because that indicates to me he was not very keen at all in that assignment

With Wilder's PPV numbers in, we know that what you said is false. He's already making more money than Joshua with 25% of the views. And c'mon, he was already across the Atlantic for Povetkin, but clearly trying to pull out of the fight when it was a week away? You're better than that. He offered $50M and you say that doesn't matter. Joshua wants to make less for Wilder to come overseas, but you say Wilder shouldn't be compensated, even though the fight is more lucrative elsewhere. That's trying to have it both ways, so I'll just agree to disagree. Sugar Ray Leonard was the draw when he broke retirement to fight Hagler, and he paid for every advantage he wanted, because that's how a guy trying to make a fight behaves. One more time, Joshua says he WANTS this fight, but all of his team's actions indicate the opposite. Low offers, missing details, and a lot of lying.


As far as things "not working that way," Wilder doesn't have to take a BS deal, so Hearn has to offer something better than 70-30. He offered 15M flat, and Wilder just got $14M and PPV backend from his own fight. That's around what Joshua makes, which means that there's no plight to take advantage of. Why is he going to take anything less than 50-50, and based on his numbers, why isn't he worth it? The ball is entirely in Joshua's court, and since Wilder doesn't need him, he knows what he needs to do, which is tell his promoter to make a reasonable offer.

And please give me your source stating that Wilder paid Povetkin $2M, because my recollection of events had Wilder suing for over $5M, because Povetkin failed several tests (even though you say Wilder pulled out after only one).

[Noelanthony]

With Wilder's PPV numbers in, we know that what you said is false. He's already making more money than Joshua with 25% of the views. And c'mon, he was already across the Atlantic for Povetkin, but clearly trying to pull out of the fight when it was a week away? You're better than that. He offered $50M and you say that doesn't matter. Joshua wants to make less for Wilder to come overseas, but you say Wilder shouldn't be compensated, even though the fight is more lucrative elsewhere. That's trying to have it both ways, so I'll just agree to disagree. Sugar Ray Leonard was the draw when he broke retirement to fight Hagler, and he paid for every advantage he wanted, because that's how a guy trying to make a fight behaves. One more time, Joshua says he WANTS this fight, but all of his team's actions indicate the opposite. Low offers, missing details, and a lot of lying.


As far as things "not working that way," Wilder doesn't have to take a BS deal, so Hearn has to offer something better than 70-30. He offered 15M flat, and Wilder just got $14M and PPV backend from his own fight. That's around what Joshua makes, which means that there's no plight to take advantage of. Why is he going to take anything less than 50-50, and based on his numbers, why isn't he worth it? The ball is entirely in Joshua's court, and since Wilder doesn't need him, he knows what he needs to do, which is tell his promoter to make a reasonable offer.

And please give me your source stating that Wilder paid Povetkin $2M, because my recollection of events had Wilder suing for over $5M, because Povetkin failed several tests (even though you say Wilder pulled out after only one).

https://www.criscyborg.com/deontay-w...an-fight-2016/


I have never said Wilder is afraid of anyone. I don’t really embroil myself in he hasn’t fought this person so he isn’t s#hit. If AJ had Wilder’s personality( not that there is anything wrong with Wilders) just the cynic in me I would frown because personally Klitschko should have knocked him out. So because he acknowledges he needs more work I warm to the brother.

I like Wilder’s bravado but when his fans talk or try and critique AJ’s resume even before Wilder fought Ortiz or Fury it’s almost laughable.

You will never hear me challenging a poster because they feel Wilder would win because it’s very possible he could. I challenge the posters that are unconsciously bias. In all honesty I don’t take it that seriously. I just a wind up merchant. Before it only worked with women that I slept with ,that were emotional ,but apparently I have now expanded overseas and grown arse American men have the bug too

I stand corrected with the 2 million claim it is not conclusive

[Illmatic94]

If AJ/Hearn really wanted to pull a boss move they would lure Fury away from Wilder. but they refuse to even mention his name. they would put Wilder against the wall if they take Fury from him. but they obsessed with Shyte for some reason.