Riddick Bowe vs Deontay Wilder would've been interesting

[Sheldon312]

https://youtu.be/YMqEXyq0upQ

Stylistically this is a 50/50 fight both are big HWs and both have one-punch knockout power. Idk, man this would be a war.

[NChristo]

Bowe at his peak tears him apart, Bowe is better at Wilders own fight than he is, probably one of the worst matchups you could give him. Add that Bowe's chin is unreal, an out of shape Bowe won the Golota fight just through sheer heart accompanied by an iron beard and a concrete groin guard, Golota pretty much got tired of hitting him and gave up. Bowe doesn't have the punching power of Wilder nor is it close but I reckon he'd take Wilder into unknown territory and pull a late, maybe mid, round stoppage, skill wise they're galaxies apart.

Edit: Not saying he'd get away with taking that punishment from Wilder, just an example of how tough Bowe was, Wilder more than likely beats the Bowe that shown up for the Golota fight. Although thinking about it even that Bowe probably takes Wilder to deep waters.

[GreatErikk]

Wilder KO Bowe out cold

[techliam]

Wilder is in the worst era in HW history

That is why he is doing relatively well..

and you want to put him against a top fighter from arguably the strongest era in HW history?

[Cutthroat]

Bowe was a tough m'fer but tough doesn't get you anywhere in this current era of super heavies. Tough gets you hurt, tough gets you dropped. There is a limit to the amount of PSI the human skull to take and Wilder has surpassed that limit.


Bowe was very slow, stationary, and easy to hit. He got into a lot of wars for that very reason. Guys like Tubbs and Holyfield (205lbs), landed plenty on him including Golota. If Holyfield came in 205 vs Wilder and tried to get into a war with him like he did Bowe I guarantee you it's lights out.

Wilder would make him look slow, Wilder's reflexes and speed are on another level. Bowe is honestly tailor made for him.

[Boksfan]

One is talentless but hard working, other is talented but lazy. Who would have won? Probably Wilder coz Bowe would come up fat as a pig.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Bowe was a tough m'fer but tough doesn't get you anywhere in this current era of super heavies. Tough gets you hurt, tough gets you dropped. There is a limit to the amount of PSI the human skull to take and Wilder has surpassed that limit.


Bowe was very slow, stationary, and easy to hit. He got into a lot of wars for that very reason. Guys like Tubbs and Holyfield (205lbs), landed plenty on him including Golota. If Holyfield came in 205 vs Wilder and tried to get into a war with him like he did Bowe I guarantee you it's lights out.

Wilder would make him look slow, Wilder's reflexes and speed are on another level. Bowe is honestly tailor made for him.

Erm, no! Deontay Wilder's punching power is no higher than that of Lennox Lewis's, Wladimir Klitschko's or even David Haye's or Anthony Joshua's. There are guys out there who could and would be able to take Deontay Wilder's punches without getting knocked out or even dropped. So no, there isn't sufficient evidence that Wilder has surpassed the limit of the amount of PSI the human skull could take.

The opponents Wilder has faced, inflates his knockout record. Most of those guys aren't very durable or tough. Most of those guys have been KO'ed / stopped previously, and / or easily after. Deontay Wilder has knocked out almost no in prime, previously UN-KO'ed top 10 contender.

One of the toughest opponents and best contenders (close to the top 10, even though he wasn't in the top 10) Wilder has faced was Johan Duhaupas. Wilder landed everything but the kitchen sink on Johan Duhaupas for 11 rounds and couldn't even drop him once and needed a standing, arguably a premature stoppage.


Not only that, but this is what Johan Duhaupas did to Deontay Wilder's face:



What makes you think Riddick Bowe wouldn't pose a greater threat to Deontay Wilder who is practically the same size as Johan Duhaupas with similar attributes, but at a higher level?

Johan Duhaupas alone disproves your following statement:

There is a limit to the amount of PSI the human skull to take and Wilder has surpassed that limit.

And Duhaupas is a guy who was knocked out unconscious by a blown up cruiser weight.

I can assure you now that if Wilder couldn't even drop Duhaupas after landing his best punches for 11 rounds flush, he isn't dropping someone like Mariusz Wach. Not even close! He may fail to KO even the likes of Jarrell Miller, Andy Ruiz Jr, Dillian Whyte, Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam. These are all DURABLE heavyweights who have proven chins

Deontay Wilder has been ducking DURABLE opponents who have proven chins for a long time now, that are young and in their primes. One can't go by his knockout wins over suspect chinned opponents and claim what you claimed.

And if Johan Duhaupas can inflict as much damage to Wilder as he did whilst posing as many problems, I can certainly see Riddick Bowe toppling what Johan Duhaupas did.

[Cutthroat]

Erm, no! Deontay Wilder's punching power is no higher than that of Lennox Lewis's, Wladimir Klitschko's or even David Haye's or Anthony Joshua's. There are guys out there who could and would be able to take Deontay Wilder's punches without getting knocked out or even dropped. So no, there isn't sufficient evidence that Wilder has surpassed the limit of the amount of PSI the human skull could take.

The opponents Wilder has faced, inflates his knockout record. Most of those guys aren't very durable or tough. Most of those guys have been KO'ed / stopped previously, and / or easily after. Deontay Wilder has knocked out almost no in prime, previously UN-KO'ed top 10 contender.

One of the toughest opponents and best contenders (close to the top 10, even though he wasn't in the top 10) Wilder has faced was Johan Duhaupas. Wilder landed everything but the kitchen sink on Johan Duhaupas for 11 rounds and couldn't even drop him once and needed a standing, arguably a premature stoppage.


Not only that, but this is what Johan Duhaupas did to Deontay Wilder's face:



What makes you think Riddick Bowe wouldn't pose a greater threat to Deontay Wilder who is practically the same size as Johan Duhaupas with similar attributes, but at a higher level?

Johan Duhaupas alone disproves your following statement:



And Duhaupas is a guy who was knocked out unconscious by a blown up cruiser weight.

I can assure you now that if Wilder couldn't even drop Duhaupas after landing his best punches for 11 rounds flush, he isn't dropping someone like Mariusz Wach. Not even close! He may fail to KO even the likes of Jarrell Miller, Andy Ruiz Jr, Dillian Whyte, Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam. These are all DURABLE heavyweights who have proven chins

Deontay Wilder has been ducking DURABLE opponents who have proven chins for a long time now, that are young and in their primes. One can't go by his knockout wins over suspect chinned opponents and claim what you claimed.

And if Johan Duhaupas can inflict as much damage to Wilder as he did whilst posing as many problems, I can certainly see Riddick Bowe toppling what Johan Duhaupas did.

Wilder has a significantly higher KO ratio than all those men. The only man to go a full 12 was Stiverne due Wilder's broken right hand.

-Peter ate Wlad's right hands no problem CLEAN on the chin no problem for 11 rounds before a left hook finally wobbled him. It takes Wlad time to break guys down, many have gone the distance like Jennings, Ibragimov, Haye, Peter, Fury, Wach, etc. you think AJ could duck into a Wilder uppercut while he's hurt like he did Wlad's not once 2x in a row? Don't make me laugh. I want to hear the excuses from this one lmao.

-Levi Billups, previously KO'd, journeyman level, went the distance with Lewis. McCall ate his punches no problem, Tua ate his punches, Tucker, Mercer, Mavrovic etc.

-Haye hasn't fought a top 10 HW since 2009 and it was a close fight that went 12.

-AJ is an accumulation puncher, Wilder needs 1 punch. Can you really not tell the difference?


Duhpas is a significantly better defensive fighter than Bowe, he keeps a very high guard. The only time he's been stopped was taking Pedvetkin who'd tested positive for Ostarine and took the fight on 48hrs notice.

Bowe was EASY to hit, he was there for anybody, he depended on overwhelming small guys with his pure size. He got into wars because he was a bad defensive fighter. He doesn't have Duhapas' guard, he's tailor made for an early KO by Wilder. Even Tony Tubbs arguably beat Bowe, now you're gonna tell me Tubbs is better than Ortiz lmao.

Luis Ortiz is a proven chin, never been hurt in the pros, never been down, 6'4 240lbs of muscle. Dropped by a jab, rocked multiple times even with him keeping his guard high, knocked out cold. He too has a significantly better defense than Bowe and is around his size. Sorry but that excuse of Wilder hasn't KO'd anyone doesn't fly.

[Mindgames]

Bowe has far superior skills, a great jab and would put Wilders head in the 5th row.

[Mindgames]

Wilder has a significantly higher KO ratio than all those men. The only man to go a full 12 was Stiverne due Wilder's broken right hand.

-Peter ate Wlad's right hands no problem CLEAN on the chin no problem for 11 rounds before a left hook finally wobbled him. It takes Wlad time to break guys down, many have gone the distance like Jennings, Ibragimov, Haye, Peter, Fury, Wach, etc. you think AJ could duck into a Wilder uppercut while he's hurt like he did Wlad's not once 2x in a row? Don't make me laugh. I want to hear the excuses from this one lmao.

-Levi Billups, previously KO'd, journeyman level, went the distance with Lewis. McCall ate his punches no problem, Tua ate his punches, Tucker, Mercer, Mavrovic etc.

-Haye hasn't fought a top 10 HW since 2009 and it was a close fight that went 12.

-AJ is an accumulation puncher, Wilder needs 1 punch. Can you really not tell the difference?


Duhpas is a significantly better defensive fighter than Bowe, he keeps a very high guard. The only time he's been stopped was taking Pedvetkin who'd tested positive for Ostarine and took the fight on 48hrs notice.

Bowe was EASY to hit, he was there for anybody, he depended on overwhelming small guys with his pure size. He got into wars because he was a bad defensive fighter. He doesn't have Duhapas' guard, he's tailor made for an early KO by Wilder. Even Tony Tubbs arguably beat Bowe, now you're gonna tell me Tubbs is better than Ortiz lmao.

Luis Ortiz is a proven chin, never been hurt in the pros, never been down, 6'4 240lbs of muscle. Dropped by a jab, rocked multiple times even with him keeping his guard high, knocked out cold. He too has a significantly better defense than Bowe and is around his size. Sorry but that excuse of Wilder hasn't KO'd anyone doesn't fly.

How did Ortiz have a proven chin? Never fought a dangerous puncher. 240lb of muscle. He was fat, even Wilder said that, and he had a serious health problem. Let's not turn him into this superstar. It was a good win for Wilder, but if you think old Ortiz compares with a prime Bowe, you are high my man.