Did The Povetkin Fight Vindicate Haye and Vilify Wladimir?

[Simurgh]

Povetkin had a right tactics. He troubled Wlad more than Haye. The part that was missing is Povetkin landing body punches and uppercuts once inside.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Povetkin had a right tactics. He troubled Wlad more than Haye. The part that was missing is Povetkin landing body punches and uppercuts once inside.

Or anything of note whatsoever.

[Bigg Rigg]

Klitschko is horrible!! Haye can provide some excitement while Wlad can't. It's Wlad fault that fight stunk!

[joe strong]

I just think about all the klitschko diehards who use to call lennox dirty, etc... he made john ruiz & henry akinwande proud...luis pabon has officiated a few klitschko fights...I wonder how the fight would have went if jay nady was ref? wlad would have been warned & deducted a points. nady don't allow holding...

[Jack Napier]

nope, Haye will never be vindicated for his sore toed flopjob
Wlad's still the champ, doing what he's always done
nothing happened vs Povetkin he hasn't been ripped for many times
Povetkin at least had the heart to rush in on Wlad
he lacked the smarts to do anything else, but he showed guts
Haye's a cunt and a queer who tried to blow Wlad, fuck him

[Pirao]

A fight between Povetkin and Wladimir would somehow vindicate Haye... ok, dude.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Doesn't have to, Wlad-Haye was full of close rounds edged by Wlad's jab. Wlad didn't try for a KO as he was cautious of the power that could come back his way.

Povetkin offered absolutely nothing and won no rounds. Sorry, but constantly walking forward and getting punched in the face and clinched for 12 rounds is not brave, it's pure stupidity from a fighter who had nothing to offer. Wlad wasn't remotely worried about anything Povetkin had, he just fought his usual ultra-boring fight.

[beez721]

I remember after the Haye vs Wladimir fight a lot of people criticized Haye for not KOing Wladimir but in reality it was Wladimir who put on the more negative performance, with many fouls of holding the head down, pushing and trying to lean on Haye, as he repeated glaringly in the recent Povetkin fight.

Povetkin allowed Wladimir to lean on him, whereas Haye decided to drop to the canvas in order to expend less energy trying to hold Wladimir up and also to (unsuccessfully) make it clear to the referee that Wladimir was initiating fouls.

Now, since Povetkin, it's been made even clearer that Klitschko is a repeated fouler, does it actually vindicate Haye and place the blame instead directly on Wladimir? In other words, should Wladimir be blamed for his fouls, rather than Haye criticized for trying to overcome Wladimir himself, his constant fouls and the incompetent (or f!xed) referee?

wlad didnt have much of an opportunity to lean and grab haye much as haye was running around the ring the whole fight. if anything wlad was the aggressor in that fight altho he should have stepped it up even more. the povetkin fight was just embarrassing

[dirty fingers]

At least Povetkin came to fight. Haye talked and talked and talked about what he was going to do to Grabimir. He jacked it and settled for a points defeat after he couldn't get his shots away in the first 4 rounds.

Exactly. Haye was backing up all fight not even looking to win. Povetkin at least showed that he wanted to win. He was aggressive early but tired quickly from Wladimir's strength. I'd rather lose like Povetkin than lose like Haye.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Exactly. Haye was backing up all fight not even looking to win. Povetkin at least showed that he wanted to win. He was aggressive early but tired quickly from Wladimir's strength. I'd rather lose like Povetkin than lose like Haye.

So you'd rather be a ****** and risk brain damage by getting repeatedly punched in the head?