a lot of coulda woulda shoulda here again.. Spence would.. Bud would.. All of that while Pac quietly steps up to the challenge and beats champions. Laughable
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Originally posted by NearHypnos View PostPac isnt number 1 but that he’s got the best win at WW is what’s sad.
Spence and Bud are studs but it’s also hype at this point..clearly.
Bud at least was from another weight class and though 140 was close to a ghost town and not good, he was still undisputed.
Pac doesnt beat Spence or Bud though. Hell no
Errole spence's best win is mikey garcia and kell brook. Crawford's best win is amir khan and jeff horn.
Shawn porter was beat by thurman, who Pacquiao just beat.
No other fighter has a better claim to being number 1 than Pacquiao. They don't have the wins to make the claim.
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Originally posted by ikigai View PostPac has the best win at welterweight over keith thurman who has a win over shawn porter
Errole spence's best win is mikey garcia and kell brook. Crawford's best win is amir khan and jeff horn.
Shawn porter was beat by thurman, who Pacquiao just beat.
No other fighter has a better claim to being number 1 than Pacquiao. They don't have the wins to make the claim.
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Originally posted by REdrUm0351 View PostNot entirely as Jeff Horn beat Pac and Crawford beat Jeff Horn. I still think the Thurman win is a good win even though he had been out because of injuries and while the triangle theory isn't necessarily true I would like to see Pac vs Crawford for the top spot. Shawn Porter also has a loss to Brook who Spence beat. It isn't so clear cut. It would be nice to get a tournament with the spots going to Pac,Porter, Danny G, Thurman, Spence and then throw in a Horn, also maybe a Ugas ,with a side of Kava or hell Brook.. It would be fun.
Even with a fixed ref who allowed horn to get away with multiple dozen fouls and zero warnings, pacquiao still outpointed him.
In a clean fight without a fixed ref, jeff horn would have been disqualified or had multiple points taken away before the 6th round.
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I agree with Manny #1 after beating Thurman. As much as I love Spence and Crawford they don't have anywhere close a win of that magnitude just yet. Love it or hate it the WW division and crown still goes through Manny since Floyd seems to be all but done.
Crawford should of been jumped on the fight before Manny jumped ship. Crawford is hurting the most. He's gonna have to leave Arum or really make it worth these Haymon fighters while to make him the best at WW because right now there isn't really any reputable WW's outside of Haymons stable.
Thats why Spence is chillin and will be good and doesn't have to press that fight. He has so many damn options and eventually if Floyd doesn't come back, or Crawford doesn't do everything in his power to fight these Haymon guys, Manny vs Spence will happen.
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Originally posted by FredWreck View PostDoes that mean PAC man is just that far superior, even at 40? Or are the current welterweight class just overrated hype jobs?
I say both ring true!
PAC IS #1 WW.
This victory does not feel on the level to me, the way he looked, the fact that his team lobbied to limit VADA's involvement, it's just to shady for me to bestow anything upon him.
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Originally posted by Eddy Current View PostCrawford and Spence would both annihilate him and end his career.
PacMan gives them both all they can handle, and yes he's #1 right now.
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Originally posted by strykr619 View PostLOL at Annihilate. Crawford would win due to activity and I'm not convinced that Spence will beat Pacquiao. Just admit that he is a once in a lifetime type athlete. Its not hard.
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Originally posted by ikigai View PostIn what universe did jeff horn beat pacquiao lol.
Even with a fixed ref who allowed horn to get away with multiple dozen fouls and zero warnings, pacquiao still outpointed him.
In a clean fight without a fixed ref, jeff horn would have been disqualified or had multiple points taken away before the 6th round.
Personally I don't have a bias against any of them. I just want to see a round robin of some sort and for the best man to win.
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