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Al Haymon was right once again. RE: Charlo & Wilder signing with DAZN

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  • #11
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
    Remember he told them not to sign with Roc Nation Boxing when they were supposedly throwing all that money around but they didn't have a network deal? Look where Roc Nation is now.

    He made the correct decision advising Charlo & Wilder to wait and see what happens over at DAZN. Now Charlo will now than likely get a unification before Andrade will and Wilder could possibly get a shot at the undisputed if everything goes right in his and Ruiz rematches.

    It's always best to wait and see instead of jumping on the new fad. Especially when they're throwing money around that doesn't make sense.
    If somebody is throwing around money that doesn't make sense, it makes even less sense to turn that money down, yeah?

    DAZN weren't trying to sign PBC fighters on long term deals. they were offering them great money to fight on the APP. And whether it made sense or not, that money would have been in their bank accounts if they'd accepted it.

    Charlo is in the wilderness at 160, and he doesn't even have his mandatory shot at Canelo to look forward to.

    Wilder did what Massa Haymon and Massa Finkle told him to do and ended up fighting Breazeale for $10million less than he would have got if he'd used his brain and made his own decisions.

    Andy Ruiz did use his brain by bypassing Haymon and contacting Eddie Hearn himself to get a fight with AJ on DAZN. Andy is now a rich man and the 3 belt unified world HW champion.

    So who made the right decision ... Ruiz, who gambled on himself, fought AJ on DAZN, and picked up the money and the titles?

    Or Wilder, who did as he was told, refused to gamble and sat tight playing it safe?

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    • #12
      After Pac chews Thurman up, PBC will likely try to sever ties with him before he wipes out their entire WW roster.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post
        If somebody is throwing around money that doesn't make sense, it makes even less sense to turn that money down, yeah?

        DAZN weren't trying to sign PBC fighters on long term deals. they were offering them great money to fight on the APP. And whether it made sense or not, that money would have been in their bank accounts if they'd accepted it.

        Charlo is in the wilderness at 160, and he doesn't even have his mandatory shot at Canelo to look forward to.

        Wilder did what Massa Haymon and Massa Finkle told him to do and ended up fighting Breazeale for $10million less than he would have got if he'd used his brain and made his own decisions.

        Andy Ruiz did use his brain by bypassing Haymon and contacting Eddie Hearn himself to get a fight with AJ on DAZN. Andy is now a rich man and the 3 belt unified world HW champion.

        So who made the right decision ... Ruiz, who gambled on himself, fought AJ on DAZN, and picked up the money and the titles?

        Or Wilder, who did as he was told, refused to gamble and sat tight playing it safe?
        You ever see that movie Colors?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          You ever see that movie Colors?

          And while they are sitting there talking about it, another bull is already in the field screwing cows like there's no tomorrow ...

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          • #15
            Yeah..... unless Joshua wins the rematch and GGG fights Derevyanchenko for the IBF.
            Then I guess your whole premise makes no sense. But you could also be correct, who knows.

            Wilder passed up on 120 million to fight what amounts to bums in Brazeale and Joshua
            And Charlo has fought what looked like 3 stiffs at 160 and got pushed to the limit by one of them. If he really wanted Canelo or GGG, he knew where he needed to be

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            • #16
              Originally posted by mathed View Post
              After Pac chews Thurman up, PBC will likely try to sever ties with him before he wipes out their entire WW roster.
              hes gonna duck spence and you know it

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                Yeah..... unless Joshua wins the rematch and GGG fights Derevyanchenko for the IBF.
                Then I guess your whole premise makes no sense. But you could also be correct, who knows.

                Wilder passed up on 120 million to fight what amounts to bums in Brazeale and Joshua
                And Charlo has fought what looked like 3 stiffs at 160 and got pushed to the limit by one of them. If he really wanted Canelo or GGG, he knew where he needed to be
                AJ passed on $50 mil & PPV upside I the US & UK for one fight. And he got paid less than half to lose to Ruiz.

                Wilder vs. Ruiz will do a million PPV's and Wilder will come close to getting that for one fight. Showtime already came close to matching DAZN's offer.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  If somebody is throwing around money that doesn't make sense, it makes even less sense to turn that money down, yeah?

                  DAZN weren't trying to sign PBC fighters on long term deals. they were offering them great money to fight on the APP. And whether it made sense or not, that money would have been in their bank accounts if they'd accepted it.

                  Charlo is in the wilderness at 160, and he doesn't even have his mandatory shot at Canelo to look forward to.

                  Wilder did what Massa Haymon and Massa Finkle told him to do and ended up fighting Breazeale for $10million less than he would have got if he'd used his brain and made his own decisions.

                  Andy Ruiz did use his brain by bypassing Haymon and contacting Eddie Hearn himself to get a fight with AJ on DAZN. Andy is now a rich man and the 3 belt unified world HW champion.

                  So who made the right decision ... Ruiz, who gambled on himself, fought AJ on DAZN, and picked up the money and the titles?

                  Or Wilder, who did as he was told, refused to gamble and sat tight playing it safe?
                  So much wrong with this. First of all, Wilder didn't give up $10M to fight Breazeale off DAZN. Espinoza repeatedly said he had to pay market price and loyalty didn't meaning Wilder took a discount.

                  And Ruiz didn't bypass Haymon. You think he negotiated his deal without Haymon? Ruiz doesn't even know how a rematch option works, so he definitely didn't do the deal himself.

                  Meanwhile, AJ could have made $50M guaranteed had he agreed to fight Wilder - instead he took Ruiz and got his ass kicked for much less money. So who made the wrong decision?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BennyBlanco View Post
                    So much wrong with this. First of all, Wilder didn't give up $10M to fight Breazeale off DAZN. Espinoza repeatedly said he had to pay market price and loyalty didn't meaning Wilder took a discount.
                    Incorrect. Wilder even said himself that he turned down more money. Turned out to be a mistake, considering he would've easily beat AJ and become undisputed champ.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by rolshans View Post
                      Incorrect. Wilder even said himself that he turned down more money. Turned out to be a mistake, considering he would've easily beat AJ and become undisputed champ.
                      Showtime came close to matching DAZN'S offer. Wilder is getting paid about as much as he would with DAZN & it'll be more with PPV

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