Students Support Socialism... Until It's Applied To Their GPA

[DreamerUSA]

His point though is that if we present 'thought provoking' material in a dishonest manner that completely butchers the analogy in the first place, then we cant really say that the point was to get those kids to think, because we gave them a false starting point.

Its only dishonest if they make claims that are false. They aren't. Again it is an example of taking something you earned and giving it to someone who didn't earn it, nothing more. I remember one kid in the video who thought it wasn't a good question, but couldn't quite figure out why. That kid will likely go and dig deeper into the subject. A win as far as I'm concerned. No matter what the kid ultimately decides.

[DreamerUSA]

Forcing people to think is fine - as long as you aren't forcing them to think falsehoods. That's just called lying.

Making kids think that socialism is anything like what is presented in the video is lying to them.

It isn't anything like it. No, again, it isn't.

Let me state this again. It is not anything like it.

Now that this is clear...

The video is trying to indoctrinate kids into the fear of socialism. This is a cultural hangover which the usa suffers from the era of the 'reds under the bed'. That's just history.

I'm not reading anything more into the video than what is there. It is an ideologue attempting to indoctrinate kids through deceit.

This happens all the time, and it goes in every direction. Universities would have more pro-socialist ideologues doing the same thing than anti-socialist ideologues. It is what it is.

That doesn't mean that this one is okay just because there is more coming back the other way. None of it is okay.

If you want to see some bad examples of what I am talking about - check out the 'Safe Schools' program implemented here in Australia. Insane SJW bullshit - a classic example of ideologues trying to get into the education system to twist young minds.

Perhaps you're just not used to seeing this for what it is - maybe you're not that interested in the education sector. I am interested (my dad was the science faculty registrar at our local uni, and my wife is a teacher).

Keep an eye out, you'll start to notice that it is everywhere. The only people who will never be able to see it are the ideologues themselves.

The video is literally the exact opposite of indoctrination. They aren't being force fed information that they must take at face value. They are asked a question and given the opportunity to think about it and answer. You talk like these kids are in a re-education camp having a question posed to them by a Communist.

[Curtis Harper]

Forget GPAs, these spoiled cvnts would have done a 180 if asked, would they give their money away to the poor, just so everyone can the same amount .

No need to earn your money, just wait for it to be given to you

Janitor, Fortune 500 CEO....same salary
Jr HS dropout.....shouldn't matter.

[Lomasexual]

The video is literally the exact opposite of indoctrination. They aren't being force fed information that they must take at face value. They are asked a question and given the opportunity to think about it and answer. You talk like these kids are in a re-education camp having a question posed to them by a Communist.

You think I am seeing something that isn't there.

I think you are missing something which is there.

I can't see you shifting from that position, when I have explained what is there as well as I am able to do, and you still don't see what I am seeing.

I'm not going to shift from my position, because I can see something quite clearly - and being told it doesn't exist doesn't make me think that it doesn't exist - it just makes me think you can't see it.

So, not much point in discussing it further, I'd say.

However, I'd ask that you keep an eye out, in the future, for examples of people talking about any kind of ideological issue in educational settings. Be alert to that scenario, then start paying extra attention.

I reckon you will come to the conclusion that more than 50% of what is presented will be ideologically slanted to the point of being detrimental to the children's actual education.

Maybe, at that time, you would look at this type of video with a different perspective, and come to different conclusions. Maybe not. I don't know.

Its like the situation with scientific studies. If it is about physics or chemistry or biology, then I tend to be less vigilant about analysing the study for validity.
If it touches on any kind of ideological content, I immediately know that it needs to be scrutinised for adherence to actual scientific principles - and 80% of the time it simply won't.