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If Usyk ends up defeating everyone at HW, he'd be one of the greatest, no?

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  • #21
    If he does all that he would have to be considered very good. Going by his last fight against a really lousy heavyweight I don't think he will do all that. I think he loses to the best heavyweights.

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    • #22
      Won’t happen so not even worth the energy of fathoming.

      Hypothetically if USYK beat Wilder, Fury and Joshua I’d rank him high but still not above Ray Robinson or Duran.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by BOMB SQUAD View Post
        This era ain't bad, Klitschko's reign era was bad.

        Wilder, Fury, AJ, Ruiz are all tough contenders and we got more coming. Dubois and etc
        This is one of the weakest eras in the history of the division

        The division has (relative) names like Joshua, but the talent just isn’t there

        Tail-end career Klitschko almost had Joshua out of there

        Wilder has been shown to be nothing but a loud mouth

        Fury, whilst he’s arguably beaten Wilder and older Wlad, hasn’t shown the class he might be capable of

        You call the Klitschko era bad, but the virtue of having Wlad and Vitali in the division makes it a lot better than what we have now

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        • #24
          He'd be at an ATG level, but not one of the best. This is a weak era for the heavies.

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          • #25
            It's highly unlikely unless he's roided to ****, too many good, dangerous fighters.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
              Its a toss up both are average, its still dawning the new big man era of super heavy so a skilled smaller man can beat them, Fury is probably the toughest to beat for Usyk because of the skills with that size, the others he just dont want to get hit clean.
              Well said...I agree, good post.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by techliam View Post
                This is one of the weakest eras in the history of the division

                The division has (relative) names like Joshua, but the talent just isn’t there

                Tail-end career Klitschko almost had Joshua out of there

                Wilder has been shown to be nothing but a loud mouth

                Fury, whilst he’s arguably beaten Wilder and older Wlad, hasn’t shown the class he might be capable of

                You call the Klitschko era bad, but the virtue of having Wlad and Vitali in the division makes it a lot better than what we have now
                Yeah when one guy is so dominant, as Wlad was, it is hard to say how good or bad that era is sometimes.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by techliam View Post
                  This is one of the weakest eras in the history of the division

                  The division has (relative) names like Joshua, but the talent just isn’t there

                  Tail-end career Klitschko almost had Joshua out of there

                  Wilder has been shown to be nothing but a loud mouth

                  Fury, whilst he’s arguably beaten Wilder and older Wlad, hasn’t shown the class he might be capable of

                  You call the Klitschko era bad, but the virtue of having Wlad and Vitali in the division makes it a lot better than what we have now
                  Nah. Wilder, Fury, and Joshua all beat fresh Wlad too. Wlad is used to fighting weak opposition whether they're short and have no chance or tall and no talent.


                  Wlad wasn't like any older fighter either, he had a lot left. He just finally fought quality people who are his size. This division just got a whole lot better and entertaining. Can't wait to see who the top dog is in 3 years.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by BOMB SQUAD View Post
                    If beats Wilder, Joshua, Ruiz, Fury, etc

                    Where would you put him as far as greatness?

                    I don't think he'll make it through Wilder IMO, these heavyweights these days are too darn big and powerful

                    But if he managed verse much larger foes, that'd be an easy HOF
                    - -U da Dumb Squat?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat View Post
                      It's highly unlikely unless he's roided to ****, too many good, dangerous fighters.
                      Most athletes are on something.. maybe he can do a mini Holyfield

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