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Old 05-23-2019, 11:42 AM #11
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We see Usyk and Gassiev coming up in weight, so maybe.
Usyk is 6’5.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:59 PM #12
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Usyk is 6’5.
He's 6'3" if that.


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Old 05-23-2019, 10:04 PM #13
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You mean his height and reach?

Because if it was size, Tyson was big, or average for a HW (aka big). He walked around 250lbs and came down to about 220 or so.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:10 PM #14
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Size as in height or size as in overall size?

Mike was dummy thicc

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Lol that’s what I was trying to figure out.

Because if it’s weight, Wilder is the same “size” as prime Tyson.

If it’s height, which is what I think OP really means, that’s gonna be much tougher to pull off.

Tyson was short for HW but the other Hw’s varied in height from 6’ to 6’5.

Now the best heavies vary in height from 6’4” to 6’9”.
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Old 05-23-2019, 11:23 PM #15
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Anyone think it happens eventually?
If history is any guide, then every once in a blue moon we will see a highly successful short heavyweight--Marciano, Frazier, Tyson, etc.

I believe increased out-of-competition drug testing will make this more likely to happen.

Deontay Wilder is himself an exception; he is extraordinarily light for a heavyweight; the difference is not as significant as it may seem, however, because he is also unusually lean for a heavyweight; like Holyfield he probably carries as much muscle mass as an average HW 20+ lbs heavier.

It is worth noting that when Tyson took boxing seriously--up until the Spinks fight in June of 1988-- he did no weight training aside from calisthenics and very light dumbbell shrugs; were someone with his genetics to compete today he would weigh significantly more than the @ 218 lbs at which Tyson fought when at his best.

It is also worth noting that Tyson had an unusual combination of gifts which made his his size seem an advantage in his prime--exceptional head movement coupled with a unique combination of speed, power and combination punching. Without all of those attributes he would not have been as effective; indeed we saw this beginning with the Bruno fight in February 1989; from that fight on his head movement (and combination punching, overall fitness, etc.) was absent, making him "good" but not "great". The point being: for a short & light heavyweight to accomplish great things they need unusual attributes, just as is the case when smaller fighters in other divisions do likewise.
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