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Old 05-22-2019, 01:51 PM #21
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lennox, fury, parker, froch , khan along with many others "hearn is blocking aj/wilder...hes the reason it isn't happening"

fury="wilder is a fighting man...AJ is not"

jillian whyte "fury is no fighting man he avoided wilder rematch to fight Schwarz"


how come it seems wilder is never being called a ducker or a coward by anyone cept AJs internet fanbase??!?!?!?! how come never by actual fighters or people who matter in the sport? why it always just internet forum posters who despise him?


last year and half

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-fought Ortiz who is a top 4-5 guy and was considered dangerous until beaten by wilder
-tried to fight AJ and agreed several times while hearn rebuffed them and was blamed by virtually everyone for stalling fight
-goes for fury...tough fight
-immediately wants to rematch fury but Tyson didn't want it then and its universally accepted that fury is the reason its not going down
-in lieu of that fight he made a wbc defense and delivered highlight reel ko in under 3 minutes

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-beat joe parker...who kinda stinks
-beat povetkin...as much of a former cheat and as old as anyone
-jarrell miller...ooops yeah that guy is a mess...now replacing him with a guy they claim is actually better and more dangerous than the guy they handpicked

but the UK fgts and poors want to be able to pay 10-20 bucks for a fight that can easily command 80....because they are poor and think fighters should leave money on the table for them as if the fighters give a frig about you

"omg wilders fans are so stupid they want to pay 80 bucks for a fight instead of 10"....no...were actually much more reasonable than you and realize that the fighters would be leaving money on the table this way and they don't want to do that to appease a bunch of dumb, broke, slobs.....you and your meager bank account don't matter to wilder.......oh great its 10 bucks? so you and five friends gonna get together and circle jerk each other for 2 bucks apiece?!?!? lol....I don't think so

its only a matter of time...AJ has watched Ortiz get battered(remember before the fight was actually signed you all said wilder was shook of Ortiz and he was dangerous...only to change your tune once it was signed and then again when it was over "oh Ortiz is trash I always thought he was)....AJ watched fury miraculously pull himself up from near death....Anthony "I wanna be able to say I took breazeale out before wilder did" Joshua watched wilder savagely end breazeales career less than 3 minutes into a bout

AJ is cooked...hes already mentally cooked...once wilder they start doing pressers and faceoffs it will be game over for him before a punch is even thrown....
How you gonna ask for 80 million when you can't even fill a 14 thousand stadium? Lmao!
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:00 PM #22
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Iíve never seen two worse fighters (than Joshua and Wilder) get so much attention. Itís a sad indictment of where boxing, especially heavyweight boxing is right now IMO.

You have to admit for all your finger pointing, you clearly have biases and agendas too, right? I mean you made Ortiz out to be a beast in this post and didnít talk about his age or PED usage but did with Povetkin. I think Povetkin is slightly younger, both pissed dirty and Povetkin is more proven, has the better resume and career. Wilder was life and death and after getting an extra minutes recovery pulled it out when the old (average) man gassed. Itís a whatever win much like Joshua-Povetkin.

Iíll be honest I canít stand ether fan base they have made this forum even worse. They are the worst the sport has seen since Mayweather and Pacquaio and neither fighter is all that good. Wilder got schooled by a so-so fighter in Fury off of a 3 layoff and shedding 150 lbs overnight for crying out loud and no amount of bias or spinning can change the fact the vast majority knew that was a terrible decision. Furyís acting job at the end is all Wilder fanboys are clinging too even they know their guy lost that one.

Wilder fanboys were going nuts about how the fights needs to happen now, heís being ducked etc; but now Wilder admits that heís the one holding up the fight currently and yíall are spinning that around and venting at what other posters are saying.

The neutrals have spoken and know Wilderís game.
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:02 PM #23
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Iíve never seen two worse fighters (than Joshua and Wilder) get so much attention. Itís a sad indictment of where boxing, especially heavyweight boxing is right now IMO.

You have to admit for all your finger pointing, you clearly have biases and agendas too, right? I mean you made Ortiz out to be a beast in this post and didnít talk about his age or PED usage but did with Povetkin. I think Povetkin is slightly younger, both pissed dirty and Povetkin is more proven, has the better resume and career. Wilder was life and death and after getting an extra minutes recovery pulled it out when the old (average) man gassed. Itís a whatever win much like Joshua-Povetkin.

Iíll be honest I canít stand ether fan base they have made this forum even worse. They are the worst the sport has seen since Mayweather and Pacquaio and neither fighter is all that good. Wilder got schooled by a so-so fighter in Fury off of a 3 layoff and shedding 150 lbs overnight for crying out loud and no amount of bias or spinning can change the fact the vast majority knew that was a terrible decision. Furyís acting job at the end is all Wilder fanboys are clinging too even they know their guy lost that one.

Wilder fanboys were going nuts about how the fights needs to happen now, heís being ducked etc; but now Wilder admits that heís the one holding up the fight currently and yíall are spinning that around and venting at what other posters are saying.

The neutrals have spoken and know Wilderís game.
when you chase a fight a couple of times and are jerked around...its more than fine to decide to stop being played for a fool and do things on your own time

yes chris...I know wilder isn't technically sound...its ok...theres room for guys like him in the sport too...not every guy has to be loma or usyk.....the world and the sport would be boring if every fighter tried, and succeeded at, being the same

fury didn't shed the weight overnight....he had 3 camps to shed his weight...and he looked in great shape.....theres even a wilder hater with a signature showing fury with wilder captioning "oh damn shelly I thought he was gonna be fat" or something similar

wilder never went life and death with Ortiz....that's as absurd as the clowns that said he was "out on his feet" against Ortiz...life and death is getting hurt multiple times in a fight or having to get up off the mat......wilder never left his feet and was never even rocked....he was in a bit of trouble...but not much....its made up that he went life and death

sorry he isn't some euro technician....but theres a place in the sport for a guy with power, heart and the will to win....

you ever notice how its only message board guys pointing fingers at wilder and saying hes not a man or is ducking? never fighters or guys in the fight game? lol...meanwhile fury is calling him a man and whyte is telling u that fury ducked a rematch with that man

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"the neutrals have spoken and know wilders game"

LOL.....who are the neutrals? lolol

why did everyone point the finger at hearn and AJ in 2018? why isn't anyone out here criticizing wilder? and when im talking about people here im talking fighters, trainers, managers...etc...not biased internet board posters

where is the backlash against wilder, and fingerpointing, in the boxing community?!?!?!? the people that live the sport and matter...and have credentials

im not talking about broke scrubs stealing their neighbors wifi complaining about having to pay more than 10 bucks for a megafight
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:09 PM #25
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when you chase a fight a couple of times and are jerked around...its more than fine to decide to stop being played for a fool and do things on your own time

yes chris...I know wilder isn't technically sound...its ok...theres room for guys like him in the sport too...not every guy has to be loma or usyk.....the world and the sport would be boring if every fighter tried, and succeeded at, being the same

fury didn't shed the weight overnight....he had 3 camps to shed his weight...and he looked in great shape.....theres even a wilder hater with a signature showing fury with wilder captioning "oh damn shelly I thought he was gonna be fat" or something similar

wilder never went life and death with Ortiz....that's as absurd as the clowns that said he was "out on his feet" against Ortiz...life and death is getting hurt multiple times in a fight or having to get up off the mat......wilder never left his feet and was never even rocked....he was in a bit of trouble...but not much....its made up that he went life and death

sorry he isn't some euro technician....but theres a place in the sport for a guy with power, heart and the will to win....

you ever notice how its only message board guys pointing fingers at wilder and saying hes not a man or is ducking? never fighters or guys in the fight game? lol...meanwhile fury is calling him a man and whyte is telling u that fury ducked a rematch with that man
Fury and Whyte also both called Wilder a coward for refusing to fight Dillian!
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2 years ago AJ was in the driver's seat and could make any demands, tables are turning, if AJ doesn't look his very best and Wilder ko's anybody else impressively, specially if it is Ortiz, AJ will have to come to the states if he wants to fight Wilder, and it will be on Wilder's terms.
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Fury and Whyte also both called Wilder a coward for refusing to fight Dillian!
lol....you cant claim whyte on the list since he is whyte.....any guy can claim someone is ducking him....tahts like me adding wilder to the list of guys that said AJ was ducking wilder...but I haven't once done or said that

fury said wilder is a man and a fighter.....
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lol....you cant claim whyte on the list since he is whyte.....any guy can claim someone is ducking him....tahts like me adding wilder to the list of guys that said AJ was ducking wilder...but I haven't once done or said that

fury said wilder is a man and a fighter.....
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you ever notice how its only message board guys pointing fingers at wilder and saying hes not a man or is ducking? never fighters or guys in the fight game? lol...meanwhile fury is calling him a man and whyte is telling u that fury ducked a rematch with that man
People have agendas. The people you post to validate your thread all have their own agendas.

I watched Fox on PBC champions only show and none of the fighters brought up the DAZN deal when Wilder was on there. Their agenda was to sweep it under the rug and act like it never happened.
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when you chase a fight a couple of times and are jerked around...its more than fine to decide to stop being played for a fool and do things on your own time

yes chris...I know wilder isn't technically sound...its ok...theres room for guys like him in the sport too...not every guy has to be loma or usyk.....the world and the sport would be boring if every fighter tried, and succeeded at, being the same

fury didn't shed the weight overnight....he had 3 camps to shed his weight...and he looked in great shape.....theres even a wilder hater with a signature showing fury with wilder captioning "oh damn shelly I thought he was gonna be fat" or something similar

wilder never went life and death with Ortiz....that's as absurd as the clowns that said he was "out on his feet" against Ortiz...life and death is getting hurt multiple times in a fight or having to get up off the mat......wilder never left his feet and was never even rocked....he was in a bit of trouble...but not much....its made up that he went life and death

sorry he isn't some euro technician....but theres a place in the sport for a guy with power, heart and the will to win....

you ever notice how its only message board guys pointing fingers at wilder and saying hes not a man or is ducking? never fighters or guys in the fight game? lol...meanwhile fury is calling him a man and whyte is telling u that fury ducked a rematch with that man
Thereís better and more talented boxers with better technique from Asia, Mexico, America etc; itís not just a Euro thing.

The fighters and trainers that spoke on Wilder-Fury seemed to all say Fury won from what I recall too so are you going to be selective and twist that? Itís irrelevant that Fury accepted huge money and went for Top Rank but the masses including trainers and fighters spoke in that fight and said he lost so perhaps heís just not that good?

To be honest Iíve paid so little attention to the he said she said game beyond him admitting heís holding out on the Joshua fight (which you at least have came around to admitting now) that I havenít seen what the other fighters have said. I didnít even bother watching his last fight and wonít watch his next. Heís a clout chaser at this point IMO. Are you happy that heís openly holding up the fight you demanded two years ago? As a fan thatís got to suck, no?

Iím personally over the whole division whereas at one point Iíd have gone to Joshua-Wilder. Now I wouldnít even go to it if itís in LA. Mayweather-Pacquaio was the same Iíd completely lost interest and barely watched it. The **** fans on both sides doesnít help.
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