Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Golovkin Wants Saunders Next if He Can Beat Canelo

[Shadoww702]

Probably with such short notice he didn't want to risk the big paydays against fickle opposition. Vanes was there and I think anyone else in the world would have done the same thing. B**ch move? Maybe. Smart move? Yes.

100% agree when you put it that way.

[TheSlickster]

Ideally we get
GGG vs Canelo II
Saunders vs anybody for the WBO
Jacobs vs Derevyanchenko for the IBF

Then, assuming they all win
GGG vs Saunders to unify the WBA (Super)/WBC/WBO/IBO/Ring/lineal titles
Jacobs vs Charlo

And then finally
GGG vs Jacobs II for the undisputed middleweight title

Then GGG could either retire or fight a few mandos before retiring

Those are probably the three best fights left at middleweight for GGG, both in terms of money snd legacy.

That would be a very ideal schedule. Charlo still has to prove himself and Jacobs is the best opponent for him to make a statement.

[AneesMoha]

when the very first Canelo/Golovkin negotiation broke down over weight..... you fcukboys were SCREAMING for Canelo to be stripped

This is true. However Canelo said he would fight GGG next and agreed to the deadline set by the WBC also as part of the fight being made WBC ordered the winner to get the Golovkin fight signed with 30 days or something. GGG made no indication that he was going to fight Devy next. The IBF knew that he would negotiate for the Canelo fight. The IBF stripping GGG was well with in their rights since he did request a voluntary defence and it is the IBFs round for Mandos. The IBF was actually rather smart if you think about it. GGG will have to fight for their title again if he wants "all the belts". Rather have that fight mean something than just have him keep carrying it. And when would he of gotten to their mando anyways? He would of fought Canelo then gone for Saunders if he won.

Now who ever wins would have to actively seek out the title (If only belts meant anything)

[richardt]

when did money become a justifiable reason to duck your mando?

When money pays you millions more for one fight over the other and you are in the middle of negotiating the biggest payday of your career. It's not just mandatories, it fits a lot of different scenarios. Everyone thought Bradley ducked Amir Khan but Bradley had other plans. Arum put a 5 million dollar Pac payday in front of him and he took it, like you and I and everyone else would do in the same situation.

[aboutfkntime]

You always seem to forget what Canelo said in the ring twice & that he'd fight GGG at 160. You can't dictate what weight a mandatory defense is made at. That's a catch weight & there's no reason for the mandatory to accept those ridiculous terms. He won the belt at catch weight & knew the defense was already ordered for him to even get the shot. Then agreed for voluntary & still backtracked once again. He said he wasn't a middleweight & GGG called him out on it so he pussed out & dropped the belt. Pretty simple stuff. You just pull shyt out of your ass when someone comes back at you with proper sustainable facts & change the argument as usual.

Thought this thread was about GGG & Saunders? Yet you wanna talk about reasoning for other fights all the time? Get over it. Create another thread.

NOPE, that was AFTER he vacated

before/after that..... lil'G was running around threatening to fight everyone at 154

he was happy to offer a catchweight to Rosado, and he was happy to fight any other JMW at 154..... just not Cotto and Canelo lol

they lied to you dude, deal with it

[aboutfkntime]

You're missing it ignoring the entire point. Alvarez dropped the belt over money. The GGG posters were irate as and said, you don't avoid mandatories. When GGG avoided his mandatory in Dervy, those same posters lauded it as a smart business decision.

Why do principles change based on the fighter. Charlo was about to be avoided if the Alvarez fight fell apart. Another mandatory foregone. These so called fans will support a Saunders fight because it makes GGG more money but not the better fight in GGG Charlo?

that is exactly right !!

some of you b1tches need a slap on both sides of your face

[aboutfkntime]

Well we'd have to wait for a ruling from the WBC on that to know for sure but I believe it does.

Yes, they certainly could have canceled 5/5 & tried to negotiate something for July? Tough to pull off the Sept bout with Canelo though I'd think. Loeffler certainly didn't think they were going to get stripped, gambled & lost. They might have reconsidered had they known how the future would unfold. I do agree that he should of had a back up, think he learned & why Saunders was waiting in the wings this time. A little slow on the learning curve I agree.

Canelo dropped the belt & then continued to negotiate for the catchweight saying that now there's no title at stake that they could perhaps agree on a cw. I'm not sure how serious they were on really making the fight though. Remember their first offer was 10%, then a flat fee. GGG didn't accept either & took him another year to get the fight only after agreeing to 30%. Also think about it from Canelo's side. They took fights with Khan, Smith & Chavez that all made less money than they would of & ended up making vs GGG. Should tell you a little about how badly they wanted the fight at that time.

right

they were not married to the date, or to the opponent

they could have simply.....

1) fought Saunders in June..... which means that Golovkin would still be the IBF champ

2) fought Derevyanchenko..... which means that Golovkin would still be the IBF champ

3) stopped fcuking around like a diva, and sign the Canelo fight..... which means that Golovkin would still be the IBF champ

once again, Team Bullshht made some bizarre/unnecessary decisions..... once again, it bit them on the ass

they had 4 choices..... 3 of them were good choices, and one was RIDICULOUS.... guess which one they picked lol

you guys need tp start holding Golovkin accountable for his OWN decisions..... because, you had no problem holding Canelo accountable for his

Canelo dropped the belt

yep, and Golovkin dropped the ball

[aboutfkntime]

Originally Posted by robbyheartbaby
Probably with such short notice he didn't want to risk the big paydays against fickle opposition. Vanes was there and I think anyone else in the world would have done the same thing. B**ch move? Maybe. Smart move? Yes.

100% agree when you put it that way.

I get robby's point..... but, it was not a smart decision

it was a safe decision

that team has NEVER taken any kind of risk

the ONLY risk they have EVER taken was a cash-out with Canelo..... because the Jacobs fight was ordered

they need to take Gennady's training wheels off..... Derevyanchenko is a 10-fight rookie ffs

[Shadoww702]

I get robby's point..... but, it was not a smart decision

it was a safe decision

that team has NEVER taken any kind of risk

the ONLY risk they have EVER taken was a cash-out with Canelo..... because the Jacobs fight was ordered

they need to take Gennady's training wheels off..... Derevyanchenko is a 10-fight rookie ffs

I agreed with him because Sergiy is no pushover even with only 10 fights. Hes hungry! He was willing to fight after just fighting for Vanes $$$. If the odds were right I would of dropped some $$$ on Sergiy.

GGG made what like $250,000 a minute for Vanes? And STILL now gets his $30,000,000 Canelo $$$$$.

Sergiy could of wrecked all that.

Styles make fights and Sergiy's style is wrong for GGG IMO.

[Shadoww702]

that is exactly right !!

some of you b1tches need a slap on both sides of your face

Alot of what GGG said about Ward and Canelo is just showing how hypocritical they truly are.