How would Pac do against the champions Floyd beat for his titles?

[SplitSecond]

Of course its considered movement.
Just because they utilised such techniques doesn't mean that has to be replicated there's always more than one way to skin a cat, he has half a dozen losses and no two fights are the same. And just because a fighter has rarely if ever displayed something it doesn't mean he can't (Just like how Canelo apparently didn't have the feet to avoid GGG).

Floyd stayed away from everyones offense lol
He couldn't put combinations together like he once could and became increasingly negative during his latter years. I'm certain if Morales can stand in front of Manny and outfight him using an aggressive counterpunching style Canelo can if need be. Frankly he can beat him a number of ways not just because of his size but because he's the smarter fighter with the better boxing brain.

Its a predictable fight with Manny starting great for 3-4 rounds 6 being kind. His speed and angles absolutely would cause problems but he's human and that 20+ lb weight advantage WILL take its tole, those bodyshots will sink in and he will slow down. He'll become even more stationary, he'll start coming in in straight lines not moving his head and get wiped out. We've all seen it dozens of times, there are weight divisions for a reason. No 5ft6, 143lb man is beating a 170lb Canelo.

Floyd will always do better against counterpunchers, Manny will always do better against pressure fighters.

Running to Morales was the obvious move, for some reason thinking Canelo is skilled enough and has enough stamina to continuously time Pacquiao and develop a ramrod jab he has never shown to do just that, seems to jive with your mantra "just because he hasnt done it". That's a whole lot of wishful thinking. Lets also not bother mentioning that pacquiao was a lot less refined when he lost to morales.

People on here (guys that dont box im sure) always overplay the weight factor. Floyd is longer and as tall or slightly taller than Canelo, canelo isnt beating pacquiao on size alone, he's not a monster puncher neither, he's a decent puncher, so lets not act like Pacquiao cant trade with him a bit (although too often and he would indeed find him self heavy and cumbersome). Canelo is also not as intelligent inside the ring as pacquiao, that's a hilarious assumption, you're of the "defensive fightera are always smarter" school arent you? If canelo was so smart he'd know how to fight at different gears and he wouldnt have been outboxed by Golovkin.

Anyway, this seems stupid since we cant prove it, but I see the fight going opposite, but then again i'm structing my views from what i've seen not plucking it purely from imagination.

Canelo starts off well, using his speed, explosiveness, even his feet to slide along with pacquiao, pacquiao feints and feints him, weave and bob, being cautious of Clenelo's size, feint with the feet, feint with the feet, come in when it's least expected, canelo trying to unload on him but when he starts to punch pacquiao has jumped out. Pacquiao always trying to inch closer, canelo burning energy trying to stay on his toes to get those money shot counters. Who's winning after the first 2, maybe 3 rd's? Dunno, not important, remember what bradley said, those feints tire you out, bradley, supremely conditioned for 12 rd, marquez, supremely conditioned for 12 rd, mayweather, supremely conditioned for 12 rds, clenelo, foot off the peddle, laying on the ropes by rd 3. Clenelo eventually gets heavy on his feet and starts getting lined up by the left cross, he wont keep countering Because he wont be capable of keeping up with a pacquiao, and he'll proceed to get lit up for the duration of the fight. Poor young kid with his future ahead of him, should the corner have pulled him out? Can pacquiao sneak in some killer bodyshot like he did vs Margarito? That's a possible gameplan for roach and pacquiao to work on with the poor stamina displayed by Canelo vs Trout.

Aint no way Canelo is beating pacquiao unless he ko's him early, he's just gonna tire. When you're banking on a ko it also rarely works out.

[-Makunouchi-]

Till nsb closes out its forums, its always been pac vs floyd, lets just leave both of them happy and say thank you that atleast in our lives we witnessed the art of offense and defense in a different perspective. Cheers

[GhostofDempsey]

Of course its considered movement.
Just because they utilised such techniques doesn't mean that has to be replicated there's always more than one way to skin a cat, he has half a dozen losses and no two fights are the same. And just because a fighter has rarely if ever displayed something it doesn't mean he can't (Just like how Canelo apparently didn't have the feet to avoid GGG).

Floyd stayed away from everyones offense lol
He couldn't put combinations together like he once could and became increasingly negative during his latter years. I'm certain if Morales can stand in front of Manny and outfight him using an aggressive counterpunching style Canelo can if need be. Frankly he can beat him a number of ways not just because of his size but because he's the smarter fighter with the better boxing brain.

Its a predictable fight with Manny starting great for 3-4 rounds 6 being kind. His speed and angles absolutely would cause problems but he's human and that 20+ lb weight advantage WILL take its tole, those bodyshots will sink in and he will slow down. He'll become even more stationary, he'll start coming in in straight lines not moving his head and get wiped out. We've all seen it dozens of times, there are weight divisions for a reason. No 5ft6, 143lb man is beating a 170lb Canelo.

Floyd will always do better against counterpunchers, Manny will always do better against pressure fighters.

Meanwhile Pac mauled a prime Cotto and stopped him, while Canelo being the much bigger man went the distance with an older Cotto in a much closer fight. Canelo would not be able to handle the speed, angles, and explosiveness of a prime Manny. It would be Margarito all over again, especially for the green, weight drained version of Alvarez that fought Floyd.

[RomanReigns]

Floyd undefeated

[RomanReigns]

Beats them all except probably Canelo due to size and style.

Stylistically he fairs well against most of them.

But then on the flipside I don't see Floyd getting stopped by Singsurat or Torrecampo nor do I see him losing to Morales or struggling x4 with Marquez for the same reason.

So it's all relative.

true

Pacquiao is a great fighter, but he has some off nights.

[djtmal]

He wouldn't need the judges against Castillo the way Floyd did in the first fight

[hugh grant]

Pac did better against all common opponents, so with that idea in mind, however well floyd has done against his opponents, people can entertain idea Pac would do better. So it's not a stretch to imagine Pac koing gatti in 2 rounds, koing Castillo in 8 rounds, and stopping connor McGregor in 5 rounds
Against jmm floyd cheated scales so it don't count

[Zaryu]

Yet when they fought he beat him pretty easily.

The beauty of boxing.

Absolutely, although, it would've been better if they fought each other around 2009-2010, but it is what it is. I still enjoyed the fight.

[icha]

styles make fights... you guys are getting older here and just wont learn that...
floyd has an easy night vs counter punchers just ask marquez and canelo...
pac strugles vs counter punchers, even a drained version of canelo has faster hands and much more power than marquez... there is a reason pac never pushed for that fight despite all the money involved...

[GhostofDempsey]

styles make fights... you guys are getting older here and just wont learn that...
floyd has an easy night vs counter punchers just ask marquez and canelo...
pac strugles vs counter punchers, even a drained version of canelo has faster hands and much more power than marquez... there is a reason pac never pushed for that fight despite all the money involved...

And there is a reason Floyd avoided Khan, Thurman, Bradley, Garcia, Porter, Martinez, a DLH rematch for a ton of money, a prime PAC, Mosley, Cotto, Margarito, and Williams. Avoided Freitas and Casamayor too.