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How do you beat Mayweather? -If u had "a gun to ur head" explain how McGregor wins?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by USMCer View Post
    Reach...

    How to exploit that advantage in this match-up?

    Conor = 74"
    Oscar = 73"
    Chris van Heerden = 72"
    Mayweather = 72"
    Zab Judah = 72"
    Guerrero = 71"
    Canelo = 70.5"
    Mosely = 70"
    Ortiz= 70"
    Maidana = 69"
    Castillo = 69"
    Berto = 68.5"
    Pacquiao = 67"
    Marquez = 67"
    Cotto = 67"
    Hatton= 65"

    Reach ,high output from weird angles ,many stright shoots ,But Conor can keep pace ,his not skilled enough to preseur Floyd too

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    • #22
      Floyd is often underestimated in the area of strength for one. He's been able to push back everyone he's fought. The OPs question is interesting, but the real issue is there is no one single way to beat Floyd aside from a lucky punch because of his ring IQ and ability to adapt to any fighter, any situation, and the guy has heart, a good chin, and that drive to want to do his best. Guaranteed that he's working as hard for this fight as he has for any fight hes had.

      With all that being said...what HAS been effective against him? Consistent, intelligent pressure. The jab in certain fights has been effective such as the Cotto fight. The overhand right has been effective such as the maidana fight. Coming in 15-25 lbs heavier has helped. You can really bully him because he's too slick and isn't afraid to push the rules a bit.

      Being faster would also help using the above mentioned, but I think the only fighter I think he's been in with that was faster than him was probably Judah, but that was a marginal amount at best.

      If you could put all those things together...you MIGHT have a chance

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      • #23
        Originally posted by USMCer View Post
        Uh... no.


        This is why the arguments of "If Canelo couldn't do anything.." are so significant. Canelo has amazing hands. Tremendous skills as a boxer with excellent vision, lightning speed, fast twitch reflexes and control. So why wasn't he able to land those 100 mph fast balls and home run swings? DISTANCE CONTROL. He was never in the right place at the right time to make any of it count.

        McGregor also has commendably goods hands but his feet are an absolute joke. The guy has the lower body agility and quickness of a man three times his age by boxing standards.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
          What goods a reach advantage when you haven't a jab of any description?
          The question is 'HOW do you exploit that advantage in this matchup against Floyd?'...

          So, the jab, that's it? Is that the only area where the reach advantage makes a difference? With straights, with hooks, uppercuts... there's no exploitable benefit from reach there?... being able to stand further back than the opponent is used to?

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          • #25
            Take that gun and give it to McGregor.. That's the only way.
            Last edited by NahMean; 06-28-2017, 07:51 PM.

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            • #26
              Just use constant pressure, make it a brawl and hope to land something big. I realize that answer is cliche but considering McGregor's skill level, I can't possibly envision him doing anything else.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
                This is why the arguments of "If Canelo couldn't do anything.." are so significant. Canelo has amazing hands. Tremendous skills as a boxer with excellent vision, lightning speed, fast twitch reflexes and control. So why wasn't he able to land those 100 mph fast balls and home run swings? DISTANCE CONTROL. He was never in the right place at the right time to make any of it count.

                McGregor also has commendably goods hands but his feet are an absolute joke. The guy has the lower body agility and quickness of a man three times his age by boxing standards.
                36yo Floyd vs 40yo Floyd...
                Canelo's not a southpaw...

                And wouldn't the reach advantage play a factor there?!
                Distance Control -- at least IN THEORY, isn't it Floyd that has to come into Conor's range, not the other way around in this case. Floyd's not used to having that disadvantage.

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                • #28
                  I agree with the poster who said Conor needs to exploit his element of the unexpected/unorthodoxy. I realize that Augustus had faster feet than Conor, but Conor needs to somehow stay on top of Floyd in that manner and make it a dogfight.

                  As we all know, Floyd is a master technician and counter-puncher. Conor's slim chances become much slimmer as the fight progresses and Floyd figures you out. So come out strong very early. Maybe, just maybe you can catch Floyd cold.

                  I doubt it, though.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by USMCer View Post
                    36yo Floyd vs 40yo Floyd...
                    Canelo's not a southpaw...


                    And wouldn't the reach advantage play a factor there?!
                    Distance Control -- at least IN THEORY, isn't it Floyd that has to come into Conor's range, not the other way around in this case. Floyd's not used to having that disadvantage.
                    You're talking about a few hundredths of a second or a few tenths of a second lost for Mayweather. He might have lost nothing in the last four years.. The southpaw thing will also be microeconomics to Floyd with a challenger this lead footed.

                    No, the reach advantage won't be a factor against a Floyd Mayweather type of fighter. His ability to control distance is in such a higher dimension if Conor had a 100" reach it still wouldn't help him. Floyd is so good at controlling distance he will nullify McGregor's advances and limit his punch output and scoring opportunities exclusively with his feet.

                    Why do you think Floyd needs to come into McGregor's space to control distance? Distance control is another way of saying "footwork." Getting in and out, changing directions, removing oneself from harm's way, positioning for an attack.. These are all examples of distance control.

                    McGregor will be at a gross, massive disadvantage on all accounts. When he's not following Floyd around or missing shots he'll be swallowing Floyd's gloves like he was in a hot dog eating contest.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by USMCer View Post
                      Uh... no.


                      Dude, that's the edited version put together by Mac Life - a McGregor centric MMA site. They have a whole header section dedicated to McGregor - you think they're going to show his flaws? Come on man.

                      Marketing pulls the wool over another one, I guess.

                      Watch the raw footage and you'll see how bad he looks.

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