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  • Actually, Crawford/Redkach is a good fight, and I know what Arum's doing now.

    Arum sees what I sees. A guy undefeated at 147, TKO for every win. Yet still, every win is tainted in one way or another, and despite Arum's every effort to line them up correctly, Crawford seems unable (or unwilling) to close the show decisively and definitively like Wilder. Like Fury. Like even Spence.

    You can deny the truth all you care to. The data is clear. Crawford's 147 has not been acceptable, period.

    Let's set aside the quality of fighter for a minute and focus only on the asterisks next to each win. Then you'll see why all of a sudden it feels like he's taking steps backward instead of forward. Because Arum is trying to get him a clean, clear, UNTAINTED victory. That's why he can't make Spence/Crawford happen. He can't sell that, not when Spence is over there getting clear blowouts.


    Jeff Horn. Ignore your bias about the guy. Let's talk facts in the books.

    He holds a win over Manny Pacquiao, a former WBO Welterweight Champion, has a whole continent behind him.

    Knocked out legendary dangerous puncher Randall Bailey

    Knocked out Ali Funeka who knocked out Zahir Raheem who beat a prime Erik Morales after he beat a prime Manny Pacquiao.


    According to NSB, this is Crawford's best win. Let's say it is. The problem is Crawford never really hurt the guy. Horn was stopped by the ref who'd had enough of the clumsy carrying on, not by punches, not knocked out, not in the corner. That's an asterisk.

    We don't know how that fight goes down if there's no delay due to suspicious last minute hand injury claims from Crawford. Asterisk.

    Okay, so there should be a rematch. Horn came over the pond as champion to defend. Crawford should go over the pond as champion to defend. Remove the asterisks. Horn called him out for the rematch even in America, Crawford ducked it. Asterisk.


    Jose Benavidez Jr
    Crawford was almost taken the distance by this guy, and very few fighters have taken Crawford the distance. On the surface that would be normal, except that (A) Benavidez's resume shows no A class fighter (asterisk) and (B) Benavidez was working on a bad knee (asterisk). To be taken nearly the distance by a cripple who hadn't fought anybody?

    Amir Khan
    I don't care whether you think Khan quit or not. This is a guy who NSB says has a "glass jaw", always gets knocked out when the chin gets hit, Crawford would spark him out in 2, etc etc etc. Did not happen. And I told you repeatedly that Crawford is not nor ever has he been a one-punch KO fighter. He's an accumulation puncher and stops you with swarms.

    Khan got dropped in the first round because he went in there sloppy and got caught. Was right back up, not fazed. (Asterisk)

    Actually LANDED quite a few shots on Crawford, confirming what we saw against Gamboa when Gamboa was landing more than he should have. SO after Crawford saw that (A) he didn't have the power to prove the glass jaw and (B) this guy was catching him with shots, he got frustrated. Period. He got frustrated, SQUARED UP, and threw a blatant low blow to force a stoppage after repeated body shots. (Asterisk)

    Anyone who's boxed understands, if you've been beat to the body and then get hit low, you feel like vomiting for at least an hour. The 5 minutes wasn't going to make a difference. Crawford knew exactly what to do, just like he knew what he couldn't do (spark the "glass jaw").

    Danny beat a BETTER VERSION of Khan fair and square. Crawford has no excuse. Even MF'n Algieri performed better than that! (Asterisk)




    That's THREE high profile fights where Crawford couldn't close the show without controversy of some kind. For a promoter, that's bad. You got Spence over there working with damn near 0% controversy, and Crawford who "TILL THIS DAY!" is unable to beat a 147 pounder without question marks.

    That's why Arum is now backtracking to give Crawford a soft touch, a guy he should clearly beat, to try and sell the narrative that he's better than it seems. If Crawford can't clearly - CLEANLY - beat Redkach, a guy who was knocked spark out by John Molina (who Broner dominated) and embarrassed by Tevin Farmer, there's no way he can justify putting Crawford against anyone but more B-levels.

    You, meaning NSB, need to also consider: With the three names I put up there, and the quality of those wins, how do you consider him P4P anything except MAYBE P4P Asterisk Victor?

  • #2
    You're becoming more and more obsessed with Crawford.

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    • #3
      Too bad he isn’t fighting Redkach.

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      • #4
        Broner vs Redkach is likely happening next I think it is all set that Crawford is fighting his WBO mandatory vs that mean machine guy who name is impossible to spell. Also in house which means a more reasonable budget for Arum

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        • #5
          Trash.

          Crawford "#1 p4p" with one of worst resumes in the top 10.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            Too bad he isn’t fighting Redkach.
            Originally posted by sicko View Post
            Broner vs Redkach is likely happening next I think it is all set that Crawford is fighting his WBO mandatory vs that mean machine guy who name is impossible to spell. Also in house which means a more reasonable budget for Arum
            It doesn't matter who's name you replace Redkach with. It won't be any top fighter. That's the salient point. And it doesn't matter how may excuses you throw out.

            The guy hasn't shown up at 147. Period point blank. He needs a soft touch and if he can't do the soft touch correctly, he's not P4P anything but Asterisks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by revelated View Post
              It doesn't matter who's name you replace Redkach with. It won't be any top fighter. That's the salient point. And it doesn't matter how may excuses you throw out.

              The guy hasn't shown up at 147. Period point blank. He needs a soft touch and if he can't do the soft touch correctly, he's not P4P anything but Asterisks.
              Who is making excuses for him? His competition isn't impressive, everyone knows.

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              • #8
                Do you know that had Manny not announced retirement, Crawford would have been the lineal champion from the Horn win and Horn from Pac?

                Everytime you try to up your hero, Horn, Crawford elevates.

                Not downgrading Funeka but Raheem was never a good fighter. He’s just a typical slick boxer who was stylistically wrong match-up for the battle worn Morales.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  Who is making excuses for him? His competition isn't impressive, everyone knows.
                  NSB swears that Terence is #1 P4P ("eye test") and that he beats everyone including a prime Floyd.

                  What I'm saying is, he hasn't proven it yet. Dominating and unifying one weight class is all good, but then you go to 147 and it's like...WTF?


                  Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
                  Do you know that had Manny not announced retirement, Crawford would have been the lineal champion from the Horn win and Horn from Pac?
                  What are you talking about?

                  Manny never retired, he COULDN'T fight due to ducking the IRS, the shady Lucas fight was a year after Horn and only took that long because he tired to circumvent Arum and fight Khan, who he was at first supposed to fight instead of Horn. That fell through because the date fell on Ramadan, the second time fight fell through because of Arum.

                  Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
                  Everytime you try to up your hero, Horn, Crawford elevates.
                  Don't see how. Ducked a rematch with the guy after a very suspect stoppage AND a suspect hand injury. I've NEVER see a hand injury heal that fast. Asterisk.

                  Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan View Post
                  Not downgrading Funeka but Raheem was never a good fighter. He’s just a typical slick boxer who was stylistically wrong match-up for the battle worn Morales.
                  "battle worn"? Morales was pinpoint prime at that time, fresh off beating the hell out of a prime Manny Pacquiao. I'm not saying Zahir was some legendary fighter, but, "at the end of the day", he holds a win over a prime Morales who holds a win over a prime Manny Pacquiao. And he got sparked out by Ali Funeka, which made Horn's spark of Funeka that much more interesting.

                  Doesn't change the fact that Crawford, despite having a win over Horn, has an asterisk next to that win.

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                  • #10
                    Dominated horn and won every round.

                    Hilarious you keep trying to prop up Jeff Horn though.

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