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  • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
    Keep pretending the figures were not out.
    So how did the boxing knew AJ was the cash cow of the division if no one knows anything.
    In Wilder's case, only a small fraction of his revenue is required by law to be made public. In Joshua's case, you just have to take Hearn's word for it. Essentially, it's none of your business.

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    • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post
      In Wilder's case, only a small fraction of his revenue is required by law to be made public. In Joshua's case, you just have to take Hearn's word for it. Essentially, it's none of your business.
      Lolx......... What a clown.
      I didn't know you are these funny.

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      • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
        Lolx......... What a clown.
        I didn't know you are these funny.
        You really believe all the revenue he receives is public knowledge? He has his own promotional company, co-promoted the Wilder-Fury fight, PPV numbers in several countries were not released, endorsements, etc. Think!!!

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        • Originally posted by Deus View Post
          This notion of people being 'avoided' is all wrong. If people are deemed a high risk and thus struggling to get fights lined up then all it requires is for their backers to up the reward to entice people in.

          If their backers are not willing to do that then it's clear as day they don't have faith in their fighter to deliver.
          Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
          Am overwhelmed they are still using this BS in 2019.
          Thought they dropped it in 2018. It's becoming too shameful seeing this repeated excuses that a champ is been avoided. A champ that had 50mil. This is one of the worst BS excuses in decades.
          For contenders, it's all about paying various sanctioning body fees to get the fights leading up a mandatory position. But in Wilder's case, he was already the WBC champion, after rejecting Klitschko's offer to step aside for the belt.

          After the Spzilka knockout, Fury challenged Wilder in the ring but went on a hiatus instead. Joshua made a master stroke overpaying Martin $9 million for the IBF belt, but Klitschko still didn't want anything to do with Wilder in his comeback. Klitschko, Martin and Parker chose Joshua over Wilder because Joshua not only offered the bigger purse, but was still considered green and beatable at the time. Also, there was less chance of being seriously hurt.

          Would you rather fight the longest reigning champion or someone who just came onto the scene?

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          • i thought all the money was in the uk?

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            • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post
              For contenders, it's all about paying various sanctioning body fees to get the fights leading up a mandatory position. But in Wilder's case, he was already the WBC champion, after rejecting Klitschko's offer to step aside for the belt.

              After the Spzilka knockout, Fury challenged Wilder in the ring but went on a hiatus instead. Joshua made a master stroke overpaying Martin $9 million for the IBF belt, but Klitschko still didn't want anything to do with Wilder in his comeback. Klitschko, Martin and Parker chose Joshua over Wilder because Joshua not only offered the bigger purse, but was still considered green and beatable at the time. Also, there was less chance of being seriously hurt.

              Would you rather fight the longest reigning champion or someone who just came onto the scene?
              @ Bold is bullcrap.

              Klitchko, Martin and Parker chose Joshua over Wilder because Hearn offered them all better terms. Wilder wasn't 'avoided'.. his backers were simply unwilling to actually back him and pay what was required in order to make those fights.

              Saying somebody was avoided because a fighter went a different route whereby their profits were vastly greater is absolute bull; it's a no brainer business decision and has absolutely 0 to do with not wanting anything to do with a fighter.

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              • Originally posted by Deus View Post
                @ Bold is bullcrap.

                Klitchko, Martin and Parker chose Joshua over Wilder because Hearn offered them all better terms. Wilder wasn't 'avoided'.. his backers were simply unwilling to actually back him and pay what was required in order to make those fights.

                Saying somebody was avoided because a fighter went a different route whereby their profits were vastly greater is absolute bull; it's a no brainer business decision and has absolutely 0 to do with not wanting anything to do with a fighter.
                Wouldn't you say it's also a good business decision to only fight the fights you can WIN??? Take the path of least resistance for the bigger prize? What happens when you do that? Wouldn't you say that you're AVOIDING a tougher challenge? Not really fighting to see if you're the best by fighting the best, but fighting to make the most money for the least amount of risk?

                When you have that mentality, you're not fighting to prove that you're the best, you're fighting to make the most money. And I agree, there's nothing wrong with that. But you're also avoiding fights you believe you can LOSE so as to keep the money train going.

                That's what Klitschko, Martin, Joshua and Parker did. They fought the fights they believed they could win so that they could fight for an even bigger prize later on. They all avoided the bigger threat. They avoided fighting Wilder.

                Fury DIDN'T do that. He wanted to fight Wilder after the Szpilka fight, and he stepped up to fight him in December. Fury wanted to prove he was the best in the division and it was obvious that Joshua didn't (at the time). After the Wilder-Fury fight, Joshua now believes he can beat Wilder. Not sure if he feels the same way about Fury...

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                • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post
                  Wouldn't you say it's also a good business decision to only fight the fights you can WIN??? Take the path of least resistance for the bigger prize? What happens when you do that? Wouldn't you say that you're AVOIDING a tougher challenge? Not really fighting to see if you're the best by fighting the best, but fighting to make the most money for the least amount of risk?

                  When you have that mentality, you're not fighting to prove that you're the best, you're fighting to make the most money. And I agree, there's nothing wrong with that. But you're also avoiding fights you believe you can LOSE so as to keep the money train going.

                  That's what Klitschko, Martin, Joshua and Parker did. They fought the fights they believed they could win so that they could fight for an even bigger prize later on. They all avoided the bigger threat. They avoided fighting Wilder.

                  Fury DIDN'T do that. He wanted to fight Wilder after the Szpilka fight, and he stepped up to fight him in December. Fury wanted to prove he was the best in the division and it was obvious that Joshua didn't (at the time). After the Wilder-Fury fight, Joshua now believes he can beat Wilder. Not sure if he feels the same way about Fury...
                  Every fighter thinks they can beat every other fighter; they all believe they can win... if they didn't they wouldn't be boxers so no you're just connecting dots to suit your perception.

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                  • Originally posted by Deus View Post
                    Every fighter thinks they can beat every other fighter; they all believe they can win... if they didn't they wouldn't be boxers so no you're just connecting dots to suit your perception.
                    Wrong. As a fighter you know who will give you the tougher fight. Who can beat you.

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                    • Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post
                      For contenders, it's all about paying various sanctioning body fees to get the fights leading up a mandatory position. But in Wilder's case, he was already the WBC champion, after rejecting Klitschko's offer to step aside for the belt.

                      After the Spzilka knockout, Fury challenged Wilder in the ring but went on a hiatus instead. Joshua made a master stroke overpaying Martin $9 million for the IBF belt, but Klitschko still didn't want anything to do with Wilder in his comeback. Klitschko, Martin and Parker chose Joshua over Wilder because Joshua not only offered the bigger purse, but was still considered green and beatable at the time. Also, there was less chance of being seriously hurt.

                      Would you rather fight the longest reigning champion or someone who just came onto the scene?
                      You still riding on this BS. Nobody chose AJ for unification, they followed the money.
                      If wilder had such money as he always claim, he would have had one or two unifications.
                      Let's not pretend every good HW out there avoided wilder, so who had he been fighting?

                      The truth you Wilderites dnt want to hear is that wilder is holding that green belt hostage and all of you know that.
                      Keep pretending and look like clowns.

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