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Old 02-17-2019, 07:31 PM #51
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No, rewind... explain how infrastructure fund gets depleted by amazon getting tax breaks?

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Where did you see me say depleted?
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:33 PM #52
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Lmao,,, yeah in Manhattan.

Cortez area is poor as ****, the same place where the high school graduates have illiteracy rates pushing 50%.


Like I said before, this is why you will always be poor and jealous
i bet lack of funding plays a part there.
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Old 02-17-2019, 07:50 PM #53
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Remember NYC infrastructure will be under increased pressure and because of the huge cuts they gave Amazon they won't be bringing enough tax revenues to improve them.
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Where did you see me say depleted?
Right there

How is amazon getting to keep their own money putting pressure on infrastructure resources ie depleting it

You do realize that infrastructure isnít even funded by amazon corporate state tax or their property taxes, itís funded by gas taxes and tolls.


How does 3.7 billion a year in disposable income not increase tax revenue..



Just wait a few years, her district will continue to be broke, and the Virginia area that landed the HQ will thriving

Like I said earlier, and our conversation illustrates my point, You donít understand the economics behind it and thatís why you will always be poor and that area will always be poor.

You can lead a horse to water, but if the horse thinks the water is evil n racist, it will die of dehydration and stupidity.
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2. She released her green plan, with the parts to provide inocme for those “unwilling to work”. Her words not mine. Quickly shows who here base is, lazy ****s “unwillingly to work”
She's already stated multiple times that this was false. This was an idea pertaining to much older people who's jobs and pensions have been taken away, to provide some sort of financial assistance to them. And for the record, the GND bill that was released is just an outline, it's not even fully written yet and is still subject to revisions.

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3. She literally cost nyc billions upon billions by chasing away amazon world headquarters.
She wasn’t happy with average jobs of 150k coming to her neighborhood, she needs “unwilling to work base” not productive well earning individuals
She didn't cost NYC nothing, she had zero say in Amazon staying or going. She just expressed her opinion on the matter and praised the result. Amazon could have stayed and went on with plans if they chose to.
Yes, high paying jobs but at the expense of massive gentrification and local store price gauging. Amazon left because they are anti union, NY is #1 in union jobs.

If you're so intrigued with jobs, surely you're for the Green New Deal and the massive jobs that would bring? Or are you going to be a hypocrite on the matter?

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Right there

How is amazon getting to keep their own money putting pressure on infrastructure resources ie depleting it

You do realize that infrastructure isnít even funded by amazon corporate state tax or their property taxes, itís funded by gas taxes and tolls.


How does 3.7 billion a year in disposable income not increase tax revenue..



Just wait a few years, her district will continue to be broke, and the Virginia area that landed the HQ will thriving

Like I said earlier, and our conversation illustrates my point, You donít understand the economics behind it and thatís why you will always be poor and that area will always be poor.

You can lead a horse to water, but if the horse thinks the water is evil n racist, it will die of dehydration and stupidity.
Why do you keep saying depleting?

You aren't reading that right. Amazon's presence will cause increase pressure on NYC infrastructure and the tax that they should be charged should be used to improve infrastructure that they will greatly benefit from.


Red - all of that is not disposable income.

Blue - assumption

You were saying the same thing about that Carrier plant in indiana. Look how that ended up.
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Why do you keep saying depleting?

You aren't reading that right. Amazon's presence will cause increase pressure on NYC infrastructure and the tax that they should be charged should be used to improve infrastructure that they will greatly benefit from.


Red - all of that is not disposable income.

Blue - assumption

You were saying the same thing about that Carrier plant in indiana. Look how that ended up.


Once again you are a ****ing idiot, the taxes that amazon is saving wouldnít even go towards infrastructure had they paid it.

Tell me how much of the 3.7 billion annual wages is disposable income?

And no, itís not speculation. Cortez district will still be dirt poor and needing to leech off taxpayers. And Virginia area will have billions and billions inflowing into their local economy each year

Itís senseless to talk to you, you canít grasp it

Thatís why you will be poor and so will Cortez district.

Stay poor my friend
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She's already stated multiple times that this was false. This was an idea pertaining to much older people who's jobs and pensions have been taken away, to provide some sort of financial assistance to them. And for the record, the GND bill that was released is just an outline, it's not even fully written yet and is still subject to revisions.



She didn't cost NYC nothing, she had zero say in Amazon staying or going. She just expressed her opinion on the matter and praised the result. Amazon could have stayed and went on with plans if they chose to.
Yes, high paying jobs but at the expense of massive gentrification and local store price gauging. Amazon left because they are anti union, NY is #1 in union jobs.

If you're so intrigued with jobs, surely you're for the Green New Deal and the massive jobs that would bring? Or are you going to be a hypocrite on the matter?

Lmao,,, You guys are retarded,,, she literally released her plan, it says paying income to ďthose unwilling to workĒ, she caught hell for it from both sides, deleted it, and now claiming it was a mistake, and idiots will believe.

Literally that is her base, in her own words, her base is too stupid to handle a world HQ in their area

ďThose 150k Jobs arent the Jobs my people takeĒ.

Translation: my district is filled with idiots that are unwilling to work, and they couldnít possibly handle getting one of the 25000 incoming jobs, and they are too stupid to handle improving standard of living in the area, they are much better off being on a poor area without jobs.

And the same bytches will be whining about lack of economic opportunity

And you wonder why their are no banks or stores in those areas
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No jobs aren't jobs. You have to factor in the implicit cost not only the explicit cost.

The thing also with these big tax breaks is that most time the tax breaks are permanent while the jobs aren't.
?????

Tax breaks are discount on your taxes

To get them you have to pay taxes

Your tax breaks are dependent on your taxable income

Do you know what you're talking about?


Do you know how taxes work?

It's like how tax refunds or tax deductions work.

They dont actually give you money. It's a reduction on the taxes you already paid or gonna pay.

I'm seeing a basic lack of knowledge here with you guys.
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Tell me where you live and your occupation.
LosAngeles, California

United states


I'm a farmer.
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Here is the meat of the post. Address it, if you can.
Already have. Most of it.

But youre kinda clueless so I'll try to explain.

1. This is a headquarters. Not some warehouse. Most of those jobs were not low paying. They were saying $150k annual salary on average. But we'll never know.

Amazon was gonna do some of kind of program with NY colleges and universities as far as tech training. Ny has a growing tech base thru its colleges, a reason why Amazon wanted to set up there.

No the jobs were not union. Tech jobs rarely are. Google and other tech companies in ny aren't unionized either. That's a political issue anyway. When you're talking about high paying jobs were talking politics and not workers rights when it comes to unions.

2. You need to get a dictionary and learn what reimburse and guaranteed is.

Reimburse means give then back money for what they already spent.

Again, you are having a hard time understanding some basics. Very, very uninformed.

If I reimburse you, I'm not giving you money. I'm paying you back at least partially for what you already paid.

And its $500 million. Do you know how much Amazon would have to spend on infrastructure? This is New York were talking about. I guarantee you they were spending billions with a B.

Billions in paying New York construction companies.

And it wasn't a guaranteed $500 million. It was up to $500 million. It was dependent on how much Amazon spent. Which would be multiple times what they were getting reimbursed.

I know you're from Jamaica, I dont quite get why you want to butt in so much on American politics but inform yourself before you do. You look like a fool a lot in these topics.
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