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Last edited by hugh grant; 07-16-2018, 01:21 PM.
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Originally posted by djtmal View PostNegro please.
Larry just made a thread calling for Manny to retire, then was wondering if he was still elite. Gtfoh.
You brought up the lack of ped testing yeah that's a good one.
You said you expect Manny to win if
there is no ped testing prior to the fight, now Lucas is a bum. As if Manny could not beat the guy without being on something.
We are hip to how you cats mask your garbage agendas.
Yes I did, as did some others. I have been calling lucas over rated for almost 10 years. I have always thought he was severely over rated. Manny could beat him clean or dirty.
The fact is there wasn't VADA or USADA testing for this fight so we don't know for sure whether either was clean or not.
Garbage agendas? If Manny as the a side and promoter had paid for VADA or another form of advanced testing, then no one could bring up the lack of testing for this fight.
The problem, as always, is posters get offended whenever a post isn't complimenting Manny or saying something positive. His actions bring scrutiny and criticism just like every other high profile athlete.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostHe b basically lost to morales who he avenged. Nothing wrong with losing. Fighters greater than floyd ever will be also lost in their prime against guys they were favoured against. Does Floyd's greatness rest on his so called unbeaten record or something?. It's debatable Pac was in prime in that fight though, he improved since that loss.
Maybe Manny just isn't as good as you want him to be. Nothing wrong with being the 2nd best of your generation.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
Maybe Manny just isn't as good as you want him to be. Nothing wrong with being the 2nd best of your generation.
Pac s the best of era. Beat better fighters at their best. Or beat them more convincingly than floyd whilst being smaller. More titles in more divisions.
There's no reason why anyone would consider floyd greater
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostNo matter how many times you say this won't make it so.
Pac s the best of era. Beat better fighters at their best. Or beat them more convincingly than floyd whilst being smaller. More titles in more divisions.
There's no reason why anyone would consider floyd greater
Shane, ODH or Hatton were all better condition when Floyd beat them.
Floyd also beat Manny, lets not forget that.
Just go by what you originally posted but keep deleting reference to-Floyd did what you said he needed to to be an ATG.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postevery credible rankings of fighters indicates same.
Shane, ODH or Hatton were all better condition when Floyd beat them.
Floyd also beat Manny.
Floyd s only greater than pac in getting things in his favour. Yes his defence is pretty great also.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostAlways excuses when Pac obliterated common opponents more convincingly than floyd ever could. Floyd wouldn't ko any version of Hatton in 2 rounds or dlh.
Floyd s only greater than pac in getting things in his favour. Yes his defence is pretty great also.
He also beat Manny-again don't leave that out.
Go to any media ranking and Floyd is always ranked ahead.
I guess they all agree with you that Floyd beat everyone he needed to to be an ATG.
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People don't hate Pac they just hate the annoying fanboys who act like Manny is still an elite fighter because he beat a shot Lucas Matthysse.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostDidn't he post he should retire if he lost? A lot of posters felt same, regardless of whether they were Manny fans or not.
Yes I did, as did some others. I have been calling lucas over rated for almost 10 years. I have always thought he was severely over rated. Manny could beat him clean or dirty.
The fact is there wasn't VADA or USADA testing for this fight so we don't know for sure whether either was clean or not.
Garbage agendas? If Manny as the a side and promoter had paid for VADA or another form of advanced testing, then no one could bring up the lack of testing for this fight.
The problem, as always, is posters get offended whenever a post isn't complimenting Manny or saying something positive. His actions bring scrutiny and criticism just like every other high profile athlete.
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