Wilder got beat up by the better man, but don't overlook his historic reign.

[OldTerry]

No, it's literally not possible.

Wilder, like Fury, are not ATG fighters. They're both fun and great for this era. Fury squeaked by a 42 year old Klitschko in a boring decision and Wilder ducked that same Klitschko.

Fury has 2 good wins when hes not punching himself in the mouth and that's Klitschko and Wilder.

Wilder has 2 decent wins over Ortiz - whose also a nobody HW. After that...literal part-time boxer opponents.

In order for Fury to attain ATG status hes got to win definitively against Wilder in 3rd fight (if Deontay exercises - and he will), beat Joshua, beat Usyk, beat Ruiz, beat Parker.

Fury is like Wilder tho and likes his Wallins and other cabby opponents. Neither will even scratch the surface of ATG, sadly. They're both fun/funny tho so enjoy the ride

And you can say the same for Joshua. The only notable fighter he's defeated was an over the hill Klitchko and he was stopped by an overweight not ATG Andy Ruiz. Not hating on Joshua but if we are going to hate let's do it without prejudice.

[MoneyKasha]

Wilder's historic reign of 40 fights:

damm thats a terrible resume

Wlad fought alot more top 10 guys right?

[chrisJS]

Wilder was fighting guys who weren't even in the top 10. Thats the only reason he got to so many title defenses.

There’s a lot of truth in this. 10 defenses and only two were ranked? DAMN.

[OldTerry]

Wilders historical reign is that of the most oblivious guy in heavyweight history who cheated himself out of 100 million and the fans of undisputed ,that is historically correct .

No it's not historically correct. It's all opinion and subjective at that. Prove that he actually cheated himself out of $100 million without relying on hearsay. Prove that it is Wilder's fault and not Hearn's/Joshua's fault that a fight for undisputed didn't happen. Can't do it can you? Easy to spout off a lot hatred filled nonsense and make yourself look like an idiot isn't it?

[MoneyKasha]

No it's not historically correct. It's all opinion and subjective at that. Prove that he actually cheated himself out of $100 million without relying on hearsay. Prove that it is Wilder's fault and not Hearn's/Joshua's fault that a fight for undisputed didn't happen. Can't do it can you? Easy to spout off a lot hatred filled nonsense and make yourself look like an idiot isn't it?

Look at Wilder's pathetic reign then look at Wlad's

Wlad fought ALOT more guys in the top 10 than Wilder

[OldTerry]

Look at Wilder's pathetic reign then look at Wlad's

Wlad fought ALOT more guys in the top 10 than Wilder

What does that have to do with my statement of not stating opinions as facts?

Of course Wlad was superior to Wilder and in my opinion Wlad was an ATG. Wilder, even with his impressive record is nowhere near being an all time great. How Fury will wind up on the ATG list only time will tell. As for Anthony Joshua he is not an ATG. Joshua would have been stopped early by a prime Klitchko and his loss to Ruiz and the way he lost have put a cloud on his legacy. Beating a prime and in shape Fury would however do a lot of good for Joshua's legacy.

[Real King Kong]

The majority of who? Biased fans watching on TV? Of the actual respected experts sitting on press row, writing for the most prestigious publications in the world, the results were extremely close and extremely divided. If you thought Fury won, that's awesome. Boxing is a subjective sport. The official decision was a draw. Boxing is sometimes a corrupt sport and robberies do occur, but when such a large percentage of press row experts scored the fight a draw, or had Wilder winning, that's not a robbery.




Stiverne was #2 in the world. Wilder has three wins over top 5 heavyweights. Because you're a hater, you hold Wilder to a higher standard than everyone else. If we take a look at everyone who has held a world heavyweight title from 2015 onward, it's very clear Wilder accomplished more during his reign than almost any of them.


RUSLAN CHAGAEV - WBA World Heavyweight Champion

One successful defense. Beat Francesco Pianeta. Was knocked out in his second defense.


BERMANE STIVERNE - WBC World Heavyweight Champion

No successful defenses. Was shut out by Deontay Wilder in his first defense.


TYSON FURY - Super WBA/IBF/WBO World Heavyweight Champion

No successful defenses. Refused to defend any of his titles.


CHARLES MARTIN - IBF World Heavyweight Champion

No successful defenses. Was knocked out in his first defense.


LUCAS BROWNE - WBA World Heavyweight Champion

No successful defenses. Was stripped of his title for failing a drug test.


ANTHONY JOSHUA - Super WBA/IBF/WBO World Heavyweight Champion

Six successful defenses. Was knocked out by unranked Andy Ruiz in his seventh defense.


RUSLAN CHAGAEV - WBA World Heavyweight Champion

No successful defenses. Was awarded the title and then retired.


JOSEPH PARKER - WBO World Heavyweight Champion

Won a vacant title and made two successful defenses against lower level competition. Both defenses went to the scorecards and Parker struggled at times.


MANUEL CHARR - WBA World Heavyweight Champion

No successful defenses.


ANDY RUIZ JR. - Super WBA/IBF/WBO World Heavyweight Champion

No successful defenses. Was soundly out boxed in his first defense.


ANTHONY JOSHUA - Super WBA/IBF/WBO World Heavyweight Champion

Has yet to defend his titles.


TYSON FURY - WBC World heavyweight Champion

Has yet to defend his title.



All of these heavyweight title reigns the last five years and the only one you could even try to claim was as notable as Wilder's reign is Joshua's six defenses. So stop being a hater and try to put things in perspective. If making 10 defenses was so easy, everyone would do it. Wilder has beaten a top 5 heavyweight on three occasions so far in his career. How many of the heavyweight champions listed above can say that? Why are you holding Wilder to a higher standard?

I don't find any of them particularly impressive, but fury beating klitschko trumps wilder's entire resume. like I said, it's just a list of names who hadn't done much of anything, almost all of which he was heavily favored to beat. the first somewhat accomplished guy he came up against, he got outboxed by, and then was stopped in the rematch. but yea, it's an accomplishment regardless, so he deserves props for that. like you said, if it was easy, everyone would do it...but the level of opposition has to be taken into context. golovkn was called a can crusher for beating better opposition than wilder, and almost nobody gives him respect for having more defenses and more belts. maybe it's you who's holding wilder to a different standard.

[Real King Kong]

I was thinking that. I personally don’t think he’s a top 20 middleweight guy but compare what he did in his division to what Wilder did and he looks great. Funny thing is the dudes so hard on Golovkin and so hard on how his reign ended gave Wilder a pass for his reign, propped it up and give him a pass for how it ended. How odd.

wilder's reign ended in the way some of these guys wish ggg's ended.

[UNBANNED]

And you can say the same for Joshua. The only notable fighter he's defeated was an over the hill Klitchko and he was stopped by an overweight not ATG Andy Ruiz. Not hating on Joshua but if we are going to hate let's do it without prejudice.

Agreed. Fury and Usyk are only HW with a chance at ATG status

[UNBANNED]

He reached #1 in boxrec during his reign. So is it possible you're just a hater and he actually fought better competition than you're giving him credit for?

Boxrec also rated Floyd GOAT. Floyd is Top 10-15 ever, but not GOAT.

That's Ali, SRR, or Duran.