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Old 09-25-2018, 11:27 AM #11
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Sanchez made ggg, pre-Sanchez he looked like complete **** against Kassim Ouma at age 29.

People trying to blame Sanchez, but the truth is ggg just wasn't that good.
He did look very bad in the Ouma fight. A fight where he was detained at the airport for 2 days and showed up at the weigh in half an hour before it began. We'll completely throw jet lag and exhaustion out of the question and act like fighters always fight at perfect condition.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:44 AM #12
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without Abel or another trainer who recognized a part of being a prizefighter is being entertaining, GGG might have continued to fight in relative obscurity.

it was abel who tweaked his style from a counterpunching technical boxer, to what we know him now.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:53 AM #13
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Is it really the trainers fault? First fight GGG lands just 8 body punches his trainer first says that wasn't the game plan then makes excuses for it saying Canelo ran so of course his body shots were low Canelo wasn't in range...which is a bold face lie if your opponent is actually running then body shots is what you do to slow them down but more to the point canelo laid on the ropes for 1/3 the fight and still no body shots. Anyone who bought that excuse was just an idiot. He abandoned the body shot because he was missing so much and worried about Canelo's hand speed and countering.

For a year everyone telling GGG why didn't you go to the body and after his own trainer predicts a KO from a liver shot...he throws 6 body shots FEWER then the first fight. And Sanchez totally panics by Round 3. Watch the replay and just focus on the Sanchez yelling at GGG every round.

Starting Round 3: Ok you are backing up too much GGG stop that.

Round 4: Stop backing up you gave that round away

Round 5: Please listen to me you don't need to back up, and go to the body

Round 6: Stand your ground stop backing up

Round 7: Reaches a boiling point leans in whispers to hide from HBO cameras tells GGG You know you losing the fight.

After the fight Sanchez says this

GGG trainer Able Sanchez answer when directly asked was why GGG was backing up from Canelo after they demanded Mexican Style talk and was that the game plan you had.

ďI wanted Golovkin to fight Canelo. If Canelo was gonna stand in the middle of the ring, I wanted him to fight Canelo. He decided it was better to do the things that he did." - Able Sanchez

Asked a follow up on why he did that

ďIf I start to make excuses about Golovkin, then Iím taking away from the victory of Canelo, and thatís ridiculous. We as coaches can only coach them and do the best we can in the gym and have a game plan. When we get in there, they see things that maybe are better for them. We canít force them to do something they donít want to do." - Able Sanchez

So what does it matter what trainer he has if he's just going to ignore them anyway? Sanchez was right and told him you losing the fight you not going to win throwing just jabs going backwards missing 600 punches and being outlanded in power shots and having just 6 phuking body shots the entire fight. 2 biggest fights of his career and GGG has missed 1100 shots and landed a grand total of 14 body shots and has been outlanded in power shots both fights, lower connect rate in both fights. And both fights Sanchez is telling the public this kid just won't throw to the body no matter how much I tell him.
Abel doesn't know the difference between boxing and running. We saw it in the first Canelo fight so really I'm tired of people using it as an argument. What I'm saying is he never taught Golovkin or any of his fighters how to do anything. He just rode on their coattails.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:54 AM #14
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without Abel or another trainer who recognized a part of being a prizefighter is being entertaining, GGG might have continued to fight in relative obscurity.

it was abel who tweaked his style from a counterpunching technical boxer, to what we know him now.
This is a theoretical question. Do you think with another trainer his counterpunching could have been refined and he could have reached higher heights?
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:00 PM #15
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waiting for someone to say Anatoly.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:19 PM #16
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waiting for someone to say Anatoly.
He's a good trainer and the lack of language barrier would help out I think. Robert Garcia would be good too.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:30 PM #17
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He did look very bad in the Ouma fight. A fight where he was detained at the airport for 2 days and showed up at the weigh in half an hour before it began. We'll completely throw jet lag and exhaustion out of the question and act like fighters always fight at perfect condition.
Ouma had lost his last 4 of 5 fights and was fighting one of his few bouts at 160. This is not a prime Kassim Ouma who was at 154.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:34 PM #18
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waiting for someone to say Anatoly.
Na bro, wrong stylistic fit. Should be Robert Garcia with Memo baby, dream team combo given those 2, their credentials and Golovkins fundamentals
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