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Old 02-19-2019, 12:22 AM #21
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That's just not true. Community support for disabled people is prehistoric & definitely predates socialism as a concept. There are records of village & church programs in the early medieval period to care for the disabled cost-free.

There are primitive tribes who care for disabled members (although the disabilities had to be comparatively mild in order to survive at all in that environment).

Such things are a matter of whether the society in question has adequate resources. If they do then they generally care for their disabled.

On the other hand (practically regardless of political ideology), in time of economic depression, total war, famine, the disabled are the first to be sacrificed.

I guess that's how socialism sinks its teeth in, though. They tell you every charitable act is "kinda just like socialism!"... Or that you wouldn't have it if socialism didn't give it to you. Even though in just about every example, the item in question predates socialism by hundreds of years or developed in complete isolation from socialism.
That’s true for the ones born with the disability.

What about those who collect disability checks for work related injuries like the OP?
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Old 02-19-2019, 05:55 AM #22
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Funny how the guy who collects money from the government is always supporting Politicians who don’t want to give away Money

As for AOc , I like the fact she seems to actually care about her district and make a difference in her community

But she’s walking a tightrope politically and her lack of experience may be her downfall because she seems to love the attention and raise her profile .

Republicans find her views easy to present to their viewers as the easily hated Young Dumb evil Socialist Devil just wanting to take your $ and give to all the Poor and minorities and make you poor. Narrative that some love to eat up like a pig in sh.it

And her views are so far from The old guard Democrats who just want to stay in power and are indebted to Banks and lobbies that she will probably not get their support and hope she fails also

American politics is such a dirty game that when someone comes in with and wants to rock the boat and create a change that really has a long lasting effect on the betterment of the avg person the games set up by the parties , lobbies , big $ to all but kill any real change from happening
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Old 02-19-2019, 07:44 AM #23
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Funny how the guy who collects money from the government is always supporting Politicians who don’t want to give away Money

As for AOc , I like the fact she seems to actually care about her district and make a difference in her community

But she’s walking a tightrope politically and her lack of experience may be her downfall because she seems to love the attention and raise her profile .

Republicans find her views easy to present to their viewers as the easily hated Young Dumb evil Socialist Devil just wanting to take your $ and give to all the Poor and minorities and make you poor. Narrative that some love to eat up like a pig in sh.it

And her views are so far from The old guard Democrats who just want to stay in power and are indebted to Banks and lobbies that she will probably not get their support and hope she fails also

American politics is such a dirty game that when someone comes in with and wants to rock the boat and create a change that really has a long lasting effect on the betterment of the avg person the games set up by the parties , lobbies , big $ to all but kill any real change from happening
if you want socialism, move to a socialist country and see how that pie in the sky works out for you. America doesn't need this literal retard to change it into one.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:28 AM #24
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if you want socialism, move to a socialist country and see how that pie in the sky works out for you. America doesn't need this literal retard to change it into one.
Not American , Thank god

These Socialst country’s you think are the worst, as a whole their citizens have a better , longer , healthier lives compared to Americans but Keep thinking that having a some what fair system in place that isn’t slanted to mostly benefit only a select few at the very top and that all citizens are able and deserve to get help if needed is a bad approach and while not perfect and that having a system set up that gives large corporations and the Ultra wealthy breaks that aren’t available to the other 99% in their system while actively trying to depress the bottom half of society is the right way for a country to govern

if you believe that it’s Socialism to provide healthcare like every other 1st world nation to all their citizens at a cheaper price with better results then the American health care system. Healthcare should should be the one industry that shouldn’t be treated like capitalism and maxing out profits is a good thing.


Or that a country that is so against socialism have their state governments spend more annually and give public funds and tax breaks to large corporations boosting the bottom line of the ultra wealthy ( basically corporate welfare ) to set up in their State often with low paying jobs , then they spend On schools , roads and infrastructure and if i remember even on healthcare is the right approach while saying public $ shouldn’t be spent on helping out the rest of its citizens Is a fair system for all and socialism

Then Keep living that American Dream that unless you’re considered Ultra Wealthy really doesn’t give 2 f.ucks about you

Some of you act like Pavlov’s dog getting all angry and thinking a government helping everyone and not the people who need it the least is a bad thing
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:40 AM #25
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She will get re-elected coz most NY voters are dumb.
If i remember correctly, she only got in due to lack of people showing up to the polls. She made her name pretty famous now. Let's see.

Before this she was a bartender ?
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:32 AM #26
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Do you believe that I am a socialist because of that?...……..Rockin'
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You benefited from a socialist type program. You had no problem with the taxpayers paying the majority of your rent.
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:35 AM #27
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If i remember correctly, she only got in due to lack of people showing up to the polls. She made her name pretty famous now. Let's see.

Before this she was a bartender ?
She got elected by going out and campaigning in her district. She wasn't happy with what she saw going on in D.C. and decided to be the change she wanted. She told the people in her district what she wanted to do and they agreed with her and elected her. She did it exactly the way it should be done.
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:43 AM #28
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The funniest part is all the Trump supporters calling her stupid.

Reminds me of the thread where all the Trump voters questioned if others were smart enough to vote

Can't make this stuff up folks.

This is the guy they support but think AOC is stupid
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When the right gets a woman this goofy and inexperienced, the left GOES OFF. Women like this are strictly the property of the Left it seems.

I listened to her but she seems to lack true intelligence, and is just regurgitating a lot of progressive philosophy without really having a sense of how to feasibly implement stuff.
Like a female liberal Donald Trump!
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You benefited from a socialist type program. You had no problem with the taxpayers paying the majority of your rent.
You're right, I did. But I have left there, the people were trash...…..Rockin'
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