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Old 02-16-2019, 01:28 PM #11
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Great point

If Amazon was Foxconn

New York was Wisconsin

If the companies were similar

And if the tax breaks and incentives were the same



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Old 02-16-2019, 04:34 PM #12
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Solid point, but not relevant


Amazon world headquarters is a much different beast. It’s not some random factory.

Do you honestly think nyc Bronx/queens area will be better off in 10 years than the Virginia area that’s getting the HQ now.

My hometown of peoria was the longtime world headquarters to Caterpillar, one of the biggest companies in the world and member of the dow Jones. The last 20 years, Illinois anti-business liberal environment has made Cat flee the state in a massive exodus. It has a HUGE HUGE HUGE negative impact in the central Illinois area.

Same thing for Detroit, look at what happened when corporations left.

People don’t realize the tax breaks are nothing compared to the amount of tax revenue a major world headquarters generates for the surrounding area
Hotels are filled
Airports busy
Restaurants around HQ explode
Car dealerships explode
Shopping explodes
Construction explodes
The fine arts like symphony and ballet, etc are funded
All the local charities get well taken care of
Property values increase across the board, which in turn generates more tax revenue



This is an astronomical blunder by the local democrats. I can’t even say it’s democrats, this is the extreme socialist left wingers because the D-governor knew what’s up and supported it, and even liberals like obama, Hillary, bill, Biden, etc would have never chased away the biggest world HQs in the world as a local leader.
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Most of You guys sound dumb as f.uck and don’t have any idea What you’re talking about and using This as a excuse to sh.it on anything or anyone you don’t like mostly AOC

Matt Tabbitti and many other journalist have wrote articles about how towns and states give all these tax breaks and other subsidized kickbacks to many of these mega corporations to set up shop in their area and making the companies additional millions from tax payer money because all of the breaks they recieve and usually the only thing the area gets in return are basically almost all part time low paying minimum wage jobs that pay so little and give their Workforce so few hours that many have to go on food stamps and other assistance to get by ,!what the area receives compared to what they have to give up its a loss for the community and the Business is the only one winning in this equation.

But you guys seem to be fine with your taxes going towards Making the CEO even richer while the community you live in doesn’t gain a thing from them being there in fact it ends up being a loser $ wise for the community . So f.ucking brainwashed by big business that you’d prefer they get even richer off your tax $ essentially just a fancy form of welfare for these businesses while at the same time have the community you live in actually having negative effects from them being there


Some of you guys are so f.ucking ignorant and have no clue what your actually talking about but are just repeating talking points fed to you idiots by people who actually want to take advantage of you

So threatened by a young educated women of
Colour who unlike almost every politician actually wants to make her community better

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Solid point, but not relevant


Amazon world headquarters is a much different beast. Itís not some random factory.

Do you honestly think nyc Bronx/queens area will be better off in 10 years than the Virginia area thatís getting the HQ now.

My hometown of peoria was the longtime world headquarters to Caterpillar, one of the biggest companies in the world and member of the dow Jones. The last 20 years, Illinois anti-business liberal environment has made Cat flee the state in a massive exodus. It has a HUGE HUGE HUGE negative impact in the central Illinois area.

Same thing for Detroit, look at what happened when corporations left.

People donít realize the tax breaks are nothing compared to the amount of tax revenue a major world headquarters generates for the surrounding area
Hotels are filled
Airports busy
Restaurants around HQ explode
Car dealerships explode
Shopping explodes
Construction explodes
The fine arts like symphony and ballet, etc are funded
All the local charities get well taken care of
Property values increase across the board, which in turn generates more tax revenue



This is an astronomical blunder by the local democrats. I canít even say itís democrats, this is the extreme socialist left wingers because the D-governor knew whatís up and supported it, and even liberals like obama, Hillary, bill, Biden, etc would have never chased away the biggest world HQs in the world as a local leader.
When in lived in Michigan one of the first things Snyder did as governor was get rid of the corporate welfare for the movie industry. The program costs the state money. Didn't return one red cent into the treasury. The devil is always in the details with these deals.
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Most of You guys sound dumb as f.uck and donít have any idea What youíre talking about and using This as a excuse to sh.it on anything or anyone you donít like mostly AOC

Matt Tabbitti and many other journalist have wrote articles about how towns and states give all these tax breaks and other subsidized kickbacks to many of these mega corporations to set up shop in their area and making the companies additional millions from tax payer money because all of the breaks they recieve and usually the only thing the area gets in return are basically almost all part time low paying minimum wage jobs that pay so little and give their Workforce so few hours that many have to go on food stamps and other assistance to get by ,!what the area receives compared to what they have to give up its a loss for the community and the Business is the only one winning in this equation.

But you guys seem to be fine with your taxes going towards Making the CEO even richer while the community you live in doesnít gain a thing from them being there in fact it ends up being a loser $ wise for the community . So f.ucking brainwashed by big business that youíd prefer they get even richer off your tax $ essentially just a fancy form of welfare for these businesses while at the same time have the community you live in actually having negative effects from them being there


Some of you guys are so f.ucking ignorant and have no clue what your actually talking about but are just repeating talking points fed to you idiots by people who actually want to take advantage of you

So threatened by a young educated women of
Colour who unlike almost every politician actually wants to make her community better
Tax breaks, tax incentives......

Come from taxes being paid.

Shouldnt cost the city or community anything.

If it does cost the city something.....then that's not tax breaks, tax incentives.
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When in lived in Michigan one of the first things Snyder did as governor was get rid of the corporate welfare for the movie industry. The program costs the state money. Didn't return one red cent into the treasury. The devil is always in the details with these deals.
Tax breaks, tax incentives doesnt necessarily mean corporate welfare

Take your personal taxes for example

Filing tax deductions and getting a tax refund mean you're getting welfare?

No.

Those deductions, refunds come out of taxes you already paid.

Get it? Understand?


Now I dont agree with corporations getting any other things and if its costing govt actual money then that is corporate welfare which I dont approve of.

But...... from what I know all the Amazon deal was is $3 billion in tax incentives off future taxes.

Idiots like aoc and others were acting like the govt was giving Amazon $3 billion out of their budget lol.
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Most of You guys sound dumb as f.uck and donít have any idea What youíre talking about and using This as a excuse to sh.it on anything or anyone you donít like mostly AOC

Matt Tabbitti and many other journalist have wrote articles about how towns and states give all these tax breaks and other subsidized kickbacks to many of these mega corporations to set up shop in their area and making the companies additional millions from tax payer money because all of the breaks they recieve and usually the only thing the area gets in return are basically almost all part time low paying minimum wage jobs that pay so little and give their Workforce so few hours that many have to go on food stamps and other assistance to get by ,!what the area receives compared to what they have to give up its a loss for the community and the Business is the only one winning in this equation.

But you guys seem to be fine with your taxes going towards Making the CEO even richer while the community you live in doesnít gain a thing from them being there in fact it ends up being a loser $ wise for the community . So f.ucking brainwashed by big business that youíd prefer they get even richer off your tax $ essentially just a fancy form of welfare for these businesses while at the same time have the community you live in actually having negative effects from them being there


Some of you guys are so f.ucking ignorant and have no clue what your actually talking about but are just repeating talking points fed to you idiots by people who actually want to take advantage of you

So threatened by a young educated women of
Colour who unlike almost every politician actually wants to make her community better
Educated women who is dumb as rocks

Made her community better by getting rid of 25,000 jobs

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This dumb ass biatch AOC actually thought govt was funding Amazon

Shes talking about using the money ny was giving Amazon

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You're probably legally retarded

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When in lived in Michigan one of the first things Snyder did as governor was get rid of the corporate welfare for the movie industry. The program costs the state money. Didn't return one red cent into the treasury. The devil is always in the details with these deals.
I donít get the whole filming/taxing thing.

In my mind film crews shouldnít be taxed, outside of whatever permits needed, as they are outsiders who will spend cash in the local area while they are there, and also the state shouldnít be subsidize it the film crews either.
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